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Discord defends itself against efforts to stop piracy on its platform by saying no to more invasive data collection. Even though Discord isn’t exactly known for privacy, this is a great move for its users. What are your thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Discord still sells your information for advertising so it's meaningless posturing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I'm gonna get flak for this but no, Discord does not sell any user data, no matter how many times people keep repeating it. Quoting a legendary redditor here:

Discord's privacy policy repeatedly states that they do not sell your personal information:

We don’t sell your personal information. Our business is based on subscriptions and paid products, not from selling your personal information to third parties.

We make money from paid subscriptions and the sale of digital (and sometimes physical) goods, not from selling your personal information to third parties.

We do not sell the personal data of our users or share personal data for targeted advertising purposes.

‍No sale or “share” of personal information: The CCPA sets forth certain obligations for businesses that sell or “share” personal information. We do not sell or share the personal information of our users as defined in the CCPA.

This is a legal document that they will get in trouble for if they were lying. They've already been fined hundreds of thousands of euros for GDPR violations but that curiously did not include a fine for "took people's personal information and then sold them without consent whilst explicitly saying they didn't do that"

Discord further has no third party advertisements which they can use to "sell" your data by allowing those advertisements to target you.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not meaningless but certainly undercuts the grandstanding.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, the authorities will have to pay for data like everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

And that's job creation right there!

Thanks to Discord, I'm able to keep merchants that "connect overbearing authoritarian entities with the data they shouldn't have, at a price point we all can agree on" at stable, sub-full time employment status.

Truly, pillar of the economy, er community.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I had a server with a respectable size.
Did a hard cutoff due to some stupid discord thing.
I managed to get a total of 50 people of about 3k to switch and out of those like 7 actually stayed.

Yet I had to get a burner account again to get in touch with certain people.

Its all be man.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

for the 7 that actually stuck, it was matrix for a while

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

I know the feeling. Similar thing happened in a discord I'm in. Rate limit ban on a leader account, no response from support even via burner, then jumped ship to a new one that could actually be managed.

At least discord has to foot the storage costs of a dead server pestered with bots because of their own incompetence.

[–] [email protected] 204 points 1 day ago (30 children)

If they did not collect any information, they would not have any information to give when they are served a subpoena.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Sad am forced on this app, I love matrix more.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Discord sucks and nobody should use it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

There is no alternative that can do the same

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only thing that really sucks about it is that knowledge that was openly searchable is now locked away behind logins.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

no, you're also effectively locked out of any participation unless you provide an email address and phone number, which they won't even tell you about in advance but use dark patterns and gaslighting that they noticed "suspicious activity" to step by step first ask you for an email and then once that is validated they prompt you for a phone number. the only thing they don't do yet is ask for ID.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Validation level is set by server owners, you are unlikely to need to verify a phone number except in the biggest (and therefore spammiest) servers

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, I've never needed to add a phone number.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it doesn't seem to be server specific because once prompted there is no way to use the account again, even if you decided to just not use a server that may have these settings set.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

Odd, I've never had that experience. Maybe you're using a VPN or something that makes your IP look more suspicious.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago

While this is true, Discord has a massive user base, so it’s somewhat a privacy win for the common person

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