You might try a Matrix group instead. Doesn’t require a phone number and supports more than 1000 users unlike Signal. Search is bad though unfortunately.
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Why not use SimpleX Chat? If you use Matrix for that you will likely get reported and get banned
Go ahead and create the group then make a post. Nobody's holding you back my friend.
Some suggest matrix, others simplex. Not sure which one would be better honestly
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What is even the point of "piracy groups"? What exactly can you find there that you cannot in other places designed for that, e.g., trackers, usenet, forums...?
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Good idea overall, unfortunately they still have your IP and phone number which means Europeans are still implicated
Signal doesn't collect IPs and therefore can't even hand them out. It's been requested in 2021. Here's a list of requests from authorities they were allowed to publish. I've looked through 3 of the most recent and nowhere do they reveal IPs.
Sure they don't log the IPs, but it is technically impossible to not know the IP when you're running a centralized service.
What are the "popular" alternatives? Telegram stores everything, WhatsApp doesn't allow usernames, Matrix requires IPs too...
SimpleX
Despite their claims of total privacy, I imagine, like any software company, they have full access to their own back end including encryption keys and server logs. Meaning they can and probably will moderate their own platform if there is enough pressure from nation states/IP owners.
You are welcome to audit the source code and host the backend yourself.
You understand that, for everyone except for a complete network pro, that is worse for security and privacy, right?
Don't get me wrong, it's great that you can.
But the reason piracy websites struggle so much with long term stability isn't because they're hosting the wrong software.
If you don't put trust on someone something, you left yourself to trust and do all the works. However, you don't trust yourself either, sadly I can't offer any solutions.
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TBH I would just use email over TOR and encrypt communication with PGP. Rotate identities every now and then and you should be fine. Yes it doesn't have forward secrecy but it removes the effort to find the "right messaging" service and is instead ubiquitous (and you can sign up for anonymous email addresses online too, which makes it even better).
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The phone number is not connected to the messages. That’s the only thing they have. It is the best app for privacy.
Arguable in it being "the best app for privacy". Can you link to a source which shows that phone numbers are not linked to accounts? (Why do they need them anyway?)
They have published requests from the law enforcement and their responses to these requests. The only unencrypted data they have is the phone number, a date of sign up and a date of the last login. That is it, everything else is encrypted and they cannot access it whatsoever.
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Will a simplex group better? Nothing identifiable.
Tracker Control is blocking me from joining. Weird that Molly (its a hardened signal fork) is showing amazon is being contacted when trying to join the group.
I can unblock it but its weird. I also noticed the other domains its been trying to (unsuccessfully) contact.
Signal uses AWS.
Only for groups? Why thing else has worked fine for the 9months I've had signal.
I think signal servers may be using aws hosting.
Signal uses Amazon's servers, look it up. It's all encrypted of course.
Yes, let's talk piracy behind some stupid walled garden. As if public conversations are not fragmented enough as it is
Signal is a walled garden?
how is it not?
- the worst kind of opensource, where you are not allowed to run the software yourself (or even fork it)
- not indexable
- requires signup with personal informations
- forever tied to a single identity
- not exportable to other services
- no open formats for its storage
it's a shitty service, by a shitty person. I know Moxie personally, and he is basically Elon Musk if he didn't make it
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The problem is Signal supports up to 1000 people group chat, so it's better to find something different
I thought signing up for Signal required a phone number and phone app -- and all phones have IMEI besides many other nightmare anti-features.
For the normies it's fine but tbh I'm not sure it's as advertised.
What ever happened to that odd old app called tox?
Honestly I could see a version of DeltaChat + GPG make some gains in popularity but I would argue the email relay servers and spam lists are rigged for max surveillance.
Are we at the point where tech from 20 years ago may be the way lmao.
XMPP, IRC, ICQ /s
Matrix is probably the best bet but some of their apps and clients seem like dogshit. And I am saying that as someone who uses them daily. And the whole "server" thing is a PITA, or it used to be at least.
I guess we'll just have to use carrier pidgin and cypherto encrypt the cat gifs /s
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Thanks for doing this
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