Lemmy.World banned me for this.
I’ve yet to meet a member of the working class that openly supports AIPAC and I hope I never do.
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Nobody you know supports this guy?
Or maybe this woman
This guy maybe?
So you have no actual answer?
You twisted the question from “show a working class person who supports AIPAC” to just politicians who support AIPAC.
Oh right liberals cope with reality by pretending their politicians aren't AIPAC agents when presented with clear evidence.
pretending their politicians aren't AIPAC agents
I literally said they support AIPAC
If you support a politician that supports Adolf Hitler does that make you not a Nazi?
I’m not going to debate you if you keep switching your argument.
I'm going to pretend I can't understand the argument because I lost this one hard.
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Oh plenty, but no one that specifically mentions AIPAC. They probably don’t know what it is or does.
So many people here hostile to the idea that two things can be bad. Weird
Bottom is bad. Top is worse. We deserve better than all pictured. If you disagree, I do not respect you.
Aside from Mao the bottom ones are far head in kills and amount of people oppressed of the top ones.
Unless you believe that Americans are the only victims the bottom ones
So you're saying that Obama and Biden each caused more deaths than Stalin? You have gone off the deep end friend, they may be bad but they ain't that bad.
Obama absolutely. Destabilizing the entire globe , murdering millions and ovethrowing their countries governments to install puppets is an art to behold. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Africa, South America and much more. Stalin only did war crimes in Russia, he didn't have nearly the same population number to oppress.
Like I said before, being so brainwashed that you don't know about their war crimes doesn't make them disappear.
Oh yeah, fuck, I forgot about that time Obama destabilized the entire globe. That was a crazy summer!
I did not realize I was the only person allowed to google stuff. Are you guys all under CIA surveillance or something?
https://www.quora.com/How-many-new-wars-did-Barack-Obama-start-in-the-Middle-East
Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Barak Obama’s diplomacy record was no better than Bush’s failed diplomacy. Obama inherited the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars, and although he publicly spoke out against the Iraq invasion in October 2002, Obama kept the American military engaged in both countries – there were drawdowns without closure. Obama also inserted the US military, typically often special operations forces, into conflicts throughout the globe including: the al-Qaeda insurgency in Yemen (2010); military strikes on suspected al-Qaeda, al-Shabaab, and ISIS positions in Yemen (2011); military intervention in Libya: Operation Odyssey Dawn (2011); strikes on al-Shabaab militants begin in Somalia (2011); Uganda: support Uganda against the Lord’s Resistance Army (2011); troops deployed to Jordan to help it contain the Syrian Civil War (2012); soldiers and Patriot missiles sent to Turkey (2012); assisted the French in Mali (2013); USAF supported the French in Somalia (2013); special operations raids in Somalia and Libya (2013); increased military members sent to Uganda (2014); intervention in Iraq to support Iraqi and Kurdish fighters (2014); airstrikes against Islamic State of Iraq & Syria (ISIS), a.k.a. Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), aligned forces throughout northern Iraq (2014); failed rescue mission in Syria (2014); increased intervention in Syria, and bombing of ISIS positions in Syria (2014); airstrikes on al-Qaeda, al-Nusra Front & Khorasan positions (2014); continuous attacks on ISIS/ISIL & al-Nusra Front positions in both Iraq and Syria (2014); raids in Yemen against al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) (2014); USN ships were sent to the Strait of Hormuz in response to Iran; U.S. military troops sent to Cameroon to provide support to local forces (2015) (CRS, 2020). The most-reported engagements included US attacks against ISIS/ISIL, and to a lesser extent Obama’s military support of the Nigerian army against Boko Haram, support of Uganda against the Lord’s Resistance Army, as well as combat soldiers supporting the Philippines against Abu Sayyaf, an Islamic State affiliate, and other Qaeda-linked militants (CRS, 2022; Wikipedia, 2022).
You said “the entire globe”, not “the middle east”
Thanks for linking me a Quora answer though, that’s where I get all my news!
Quora ahahahah
Also a whole block of text all to say he fought against ISIS and al-Qaeda. I wonder who else fought against them... Oh yeah, Russia, Turkey, Iraq, Syria and pretty much every other country they came in contact with.
Now that they are mostly gone, the Levant is more stable. I wonder if he helped stabilize or destabilize the region...
I wonder why ISIS exists. Oh yeah because America overthrew the government that was in place and left a massive power vacuum so they could get cheap oil.
And that was when, pray tell?
Whenever America overthrew a government.
Go look up when ISIS started getting foot in Libya and when Obama assassinated Gadaffi.
What in the what?
This from the official Soviet records only and only in the Soviet Union. Real numbers are probably higher. Winter War death toll not included. War crimes and civilian casualties by the Red Army during the march on Berlin also not counted.
Stalin gets credited for like 1.5mil not 8 mil.
War crimes and civilian casualties by the Red Army during the march on Berlin also not counted.
Hahaha what the hell is this line are you defending the Nazis now?
I'm talking about the murders and mass rapes that happened in Nazi occupied countries after the arrival of the Red army. Go ask the Baltic states, the Polish, the Hungarians, the Romanians etc.
Also that number is just the "confirmed and directly attributable" deaths caused by Stalin in just the Soviet union. The real.number of death caused directly or indirectly by him is sooo much higher
Yes and you have clearly done exactly zero research into the crimes of American presidents because the number of people they have directly and indirectly killed is far far higher.
Still no sauce
You were banned for making straw man arguments?
Who the hell praises GWB?
Lemmy.world users defend the Iraq invasion.
Try asking them what they think of Edward Snowden sometime.
Bullshit. Who? I want to see the links.
PugJesus and many more.
Go search my comment history for Snowden on you'll find plenty of superlibs who will justify anything if anyone from the opposing party had any connection with Russia.
Différence is : you can post this meme in the west and you won't get charged or anything. At most you got banned from a website because either you're a troll or massively not doing anyone favour.
Share this picture on qq. I dare you.
That's weird I recall .world users whining a lot about getting banned from .ml
You mean that censoring western war crimes is fine because they're white?
Mate, gotta say, if you're a troll, you're a bloody good one. Si i'm gonna assume you are genuine.
? .ml is very tankie, just less than lemmygrad. When you say anything about China that's not praise (Including facts, like Evergrande bankruptcy meaning China is definitely not in a good economic shape), you're worthy of a ban. Experiences may vary doe.
You're putting on the same level Barack Obama and Joe Biden to Kim Jong Un and Mao. While all of the people you display in your meme are war criminals, there just are not comparable in the scale and the means every one of them achieved those warcrimes. Also again, there's that difference that saying that Biden is a war criminal may get you banned from a website at worst. Saying Mao is a war criminal in China will get you imprisoned. Try also saying war is bad in Russia. I'm gonna quote somebody else "In the USA, when a protest is repressed in the blood, everyone in the country (and in the world lmao) will riot about it. In Russia/China, it will just be a Monday". They are not comparable in the tyranny they enforce on their people.
I really wish you're genuine tho.
So you clearly have no idea about all the war crimes America commits. Nor anything else about America on the world stage.
Lemmy.world banned me for this post above pointing out American war crimes. Free speech you say lmao.
Tell me why did Assagne go to jail for exposing American crimes? You're saying that's legal right?
Also do explain the amount of free speech in this video https://streamable.com/fduh1x
You're comparing things that are orders of magnitude inequal.
Freedom of speech is in the government level, not on the individual (you can only get attacked on your speechs by individuals, as freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences)
Assange was freed after all. Navalny died in prison.
That video you shared is not illegal to share in any country.
I checked your comments and I see a lot of hate in "The west". Thing is, you're not helping your case being so aggressive. You're comparing incomparable things and attacking everyone who disagrees with you. Not everyone is a psyop mate. Paraphrasing Churchill (which, in my opinion is a far bigger war criminal than any of your Western examples) : "The West is the worst side, excepting everyone else"
If you really believe if what you're saying, you should reflect a bit more on your fight. All you're doing right now is polarizing people and basically negatively impacting the causes you're fighting for.
Lib defends Genocide and pretends to have moral high ground because he moves the goalpost somewhere.
Do tell why Assagne was proscecuted, you fail to answer every question.
If Chinese people can't say something about Xinyang, surely Americans can expose their governments war crimes right?
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Do you post the same comment when libs say they get banned from .ml?
Yep. Yours is just funnier.
Yo, op is super eager to argue. Just in case any of y’all wanna practice talking to an angry brick wall, have at it!