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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are no more safe than sending a message like this :). Except you would be the only person it's targeted for. besides the admins of both instances can read them as well.

Which is why I'm the web interface it says it's not safe/e2e encrypted.

Worried about it? Add a matrix handle to your profile and then it enables a "send a secure message" button in the UI. And redirects people to use matrix to send messages to you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh shit that matrix feature is real cool. Thanks for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

besides the admins of both instances can read them as well.

What?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait until you hear about the people hosting your email

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Haha, love the image. I think everyone feels that way the first time they learn it.

End to end encrypt emails whenever you can too. Now, getting those you communicate with to implement and utilize pgp? That's a whole other battle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Nothing on lemmy is private. Your instance is just hosted on a server, and in this instance that server is essentially just someone elses computer. Anything you do or say on the server can be viewed by the admin and whoever they decide to delegate access to.

This is true for practically every online service ever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • It is not unsafe.
  • It is not 100% private. Admins can read your messages if they choose to investigate your messages.
  • It will not get blasted out to the whole fediverse; just to the recipient you indicated. (Unless an admin from the previous point reads your message and publishes it publicly on the fediverse)
  • You do not get to do anything naughty with it; expect to be caught if you break the rules.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone remember the days when they were called PMs? They are least used the word Private in the acronym.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and when we used the term "programs" instead of "apps" for everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Let's go even farther back and say they were all "applications"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not safe at all because it was not designed to be, it even tells you as much. Use them to exchange e2ee contacts and then use that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

DMs are basically comments without a post and only one regular user can see it. No encryption, and it can be viewed by admins. (Private message reporting is a thing)