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So another thread ( https://lemmy.world/post/17746018 ) got me wondering... How many people would want to move to another country?

Just to provide a concrete scenario, let's assume that in your current country you (magically) have a decent-ish job. They open up offices in another country of your choosing, and you have the option of moving there and work for an equivalent living wage.

They're able to get visas set up (however improbable that may be) for you and any family, but you have to go through the process of finding housing, physically moving your belongings and anything else you need to set up.

What countries would you take the offer to move to, if any?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I don't know about MOVE move, but I did see some lovely little houses in Mexico that are pretty affordable. Might make nice winter homes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I did move within the EU for studying and for work and it was generally a good experience and I would do it again. Am German and have been in Ireland for studying and lived in the Netherlands and Slovenia for work (although never longer than for one year).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I wish lol... I'd love to go somewhere not often considered. maybe Bulgaria or Kyrgyzstan. would be cool to see real world life there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My hand might be forced someday.

Otherwise, I'd need a specific destination and reason to want to live there instead of "I don't want to live here." I make a point to not have "grass is greener" syndrome, sometimes to a fault.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

My hand might be forced someday

November’s right around the corner!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

In a heartbeat if I could afford it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Sure, but not because I dislike living in America. I just want to learn another language, and id do it best by immersing myself in that language.

Hmmm, I'd love to learn Portuguese or Chinese, so either place

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I don't know how.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

US Here, I'd like to but not having the skill sets right now makes for difficult to move to another country.

Which leads to another problem, if I do I leave my entire social network behind to a culture that I don't know and trying to live there. While I'm not against that, I realize that can be VERY isolating so not sure where the place I'd want to go right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Off the cuff, yes...

Canada(West Coast)

Australia

Iceland

One of the Scandinavian countries. (Norway, Finland, Sweden)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I really love Belgium. It's a criminally underrated country with a silly culture and a pretty fun vibe.

The bad news is that I'm Moroccan, and not just any Moroccan, a QUEER Moroccan (even more specifically, an aroace gender non-conforming Moroccan man), meaning basically everyone hates me.

I need to get the visa which takes forever to get and I have a chance of getting denied.

Right wing politicians in the country are basically super racist and really hate the immigrants so much (most of the bad apples are second generation folks that literally act like they're having a stroke, even Moroccans hate them).

Housing is expensive basically everywhere. People in Belgium are pretty introverted (just like me), meaning they basically don't care of my presence, but it's much harder to make friends.

Everyone I know actively discourages moving there because they only know Brussels and... the snooze festival that is Charleroi or something, but they've never heard of Ghent or Hasselt or Bruges or Liège or Antwerpen (truly amazing cities) so they're basically untrustworthy.

I'm so disconnected from the country I live in that I genuinely don't feel Moroccan and want to get rid of my citizenship (spoiler alert: it's quite literally impossible). But is it really easy to convince people? Actually, my family gets very mad when I say this because they're super patriotic and shit.

I don't even practice religion. I've never cared about it. I do believe in God, but I really lack that spirituality and whatnot that would make me "religious". But unfortunately everyone would wanna kill me for apostasy.

I could go on, but we'd be here all day. Basically, I hate my country so much and I just want out so bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Only if the living wage is far better or the job market in that country is better, so I can find another job if things don't work out as expected.

Moving the country means I have to sacrifice some benefits that I already have like my family, dog, and house. Would have said yes in a heartbeat years ago, but not now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

If I was to move away from my region, I'd consider other countries on that list.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Wouldn't mind moving somewhere where the government gives a fuck but I do think the transition would be difficult for me. I was the "gifted" kid growing up so now anything I'm not instantly good at (like learning a new language) can be a struggle.

Maybe once my college is paid off, if that ever happens lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

SE Asian here. Currently doing my best to move myself and my family outta here to the west. Lemme know if any of you here got an IT job opening.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

North Americans, I'm one of you. You have to leave for a while. You gain perspective.

Back in '07, I left. I was in Australia in '09 and some Aussies asked me, 'what's it like living over there?'

The only thing I could come up with at the time was " causes neuroticism.' It's so much worse now that we have social media, smartphones, and a penchant for duelling forms of misinformation.

What I learned is that there are many ways to live. There are lots of goals people have — and can have — many of them are quite modest: a safe place to live, love, and feel part of community. There are much worse daily experiences than those we hear about in the news, or see on TV, or read about it books. There is truly grinding poverty and privation that does not translate well into a novel or an article — readership is fickle. Yet, from those ashes, there is still joy, levity, and grace.

So, we residents of the most powerful economies must see outside of our bubbles. We must see, first hand, how we are duped into believing there is only one set of goals, one North American dream, one prestige, and one centre of power. When you spend enough years away, you just might forget about homeownership, career-building, and fretting over retirement. You might find that life is about living, about doing good work, and about being with people you care to pass the time with.

At least, that's what 12 years outside of NA taught me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I've done that, I think I've found my place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I have the choice of moving to Brazil, not Rio or São Paulo but to the north eastern part. I have too many family ties here in the US to make the move, but when I get older or if shit really goes off the rails here I will. I'll probably just buy a small shipping container and bring my irreplaceable stuff in it and send it down on a boat. Would it be expensive? Sure, but if I sell off what I won't be bringing it'll more than outweigh those costs. Or maybe I'll win the lottery, if I ever bought tickets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I've already done it once. I have a list of countries that I'm considering just in case I have to do it again

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

My main problem is that I work in a healthcare role that doesn't really exist in other places besides the US

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I do have that option and choose not to exercise it because it would take me too far away from my kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Circumstances today say no, but I would definitely consider it in the short-term, like maybe next year or so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'm likely to be forced to do so soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

If things get bad enough, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would 100% pack up and move to either Finland or New Zealand, but that's about it. Unfortunately, both of them have exceptionally long quarantine times for animals, and I have multiple cats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

According to this page there is no quarantine in Finland, you just have to wait a specified time after vaccinating your cats:

https://www.ruokavirasto.fi/en/themes/import-and-export/import/animals-and-animal-products/animals-and-gametes/dogs-cats-and-ferrets/non-commercial-movement/

I've only been to Helsinki, and only in the summer. It was lovely but I couldn't really say if it makes sense to live there. My wife's best friend is Finnish and is a bit mad, like every other Finn that I've ever met. So... good luck!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It's the best. I live abroad and highly recommend it.

Better food, no shootings, lots to see and learn.

I'd be happy with most countries in that situation.

Laos, Ireland, Portugal jump to mind.

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