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[–] [email protected] 131 points 5 months ago (55 children)

Yeah, genius thought that creating CyberTruk and turn full Nazi will expand his consumer base.

Sucks for real founders of Tesla, but hey, at least you helped bootstrapping switch to EVs.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

seriously, I think if Elon could just sit back and shut the fuck up about everything since the beginning, he could have went down in history as one of the greatest man alive.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Apartheid Space Karen just had to go and call the Thai cave diver a pedo because his tech bro submarine idea was dumb as fuck, and his fragile ego couldn't handle the L.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wondered if that was the trigger or just a symptom. I suspect, given his upbringing and previous reputation from other startups, it was just a symptom.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Definitely. But it was the moment where a LOT of people started seeing the real elon

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Oh, billionaires and their submarines. I wish Elon wanted to tour the Titanic.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Good? Even if Tesla wasn't shit it's probably for the best if one company doesn't make up the majority of an industry.

And normally this would be good for Tesla as it'd indicate the industry is growing a lot. So even if they aren't most of it their total sales would probably increase.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Surprisingly their sales have actually gone down YoY, and considering the hugely growing EV market, that is hard to do.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Tesla will probably be a case study one day in how to get the lead in a market that is hard to break into and somehow squander it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Are we all pretending that the investment in Tesla was organic and for the company?

You guys have seen the man with creepy world leaders. Multiple countries investing in and pumping Tesla stock to get favors from Elon is PRETTY BLATANTLY what's going on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the problem is tesla basically got in early and did literally nothing to actually innovate and improve

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

i saw a Hyundai Ioniq6 this morning was like, damn! They have great performance, great reviews, and great warranties. they're nice on the inside, too.

can't remember ever thinking that about a Tesla

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I saw a KIA the other day that I was surprised looked as slick as it did. Decided to look into it and saw a lot of positive reviews from owners. Was refreshing to see, but definitely surprising. The market is definitely changing and evolving. Tesla isn't the only game in town.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

exactly. next to every other car company, Tesla looks like it's been standing still for years.

and that's not even considering the toxic association Musk brings...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A couple of years ago KIA hired new designers and changed their logo, they basically turned from being the butt of a joke to one of the hottest car makers around.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I weirdly love their logo.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I didn't know Nine Inch Nails was making cars. It's a big change but I know Trent and Atticus can get it right

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Kia poached their designers from Audi of all places.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have a 2017 ioniq hybrid and I've been happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

I was referring to a 2024 Ioniq6. I saw this and was obsessed all day. This car was hot. I especially liked its backside.

It’s an automotive design trend I’ve seen for 2 decades in the Mercedes CLS and CLA series, and even as far back as the original Infiniti i35 back in the mid-90s. The whole body of the car is just one big arc. I love it. It”s so elegant and sporty.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Not a fan of the Ioniq6 design personally, but I know where you’re coming from; I’m obsessed with the Abarth 500e Scorpionissima in acid green! 🤤

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is not surprising. When Tesla started out they had not much competition. Now that all the other carmakers have entered the market it is much harder to maintain their lead. Tesla losing market share was pretty much to be expected and Musk alienating their customers and the laughable Cybertruck certainly did not help.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

When Tesla started out they had not much competition.

Half the joke of the company was how they stepped in and bought a bunch of the EV-1's patents and plant infrastructure for a song, then spun around and sold EV production credits to the Big 3 auto companies so they could greenwash the SUV industry. Had GE simply kept turning out EV-1s, they'd have cleaned up during the late Bush Era gas price explosion. Instead, Musk got top dollar to churn out heavily subsidized sports cars while racking in government subsidies and deposits on cars that wouldn't be built for half a decade.

Musk alienating their customers and the laughable Cybertruck certainly did not help.

Americans have a downright neurotic fixation on big trucks. I don't think his Cybertruck idea was necessarily all that bad on its face. But he's so fucking slow, he's such a shitty product manager, and he was so heavily derailed by the promise of Robotaxis that Ford and Rivian beat him to EV Truck delivery.

Now his brand new flagship vehicle is barely more than a punchline.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The lack of CarPlay/Android Auto makes Tesla a non-starter

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I honestly don't care about that. For me, it's price, both for purchase and if I ever need to replace the battery pack.

Used Bolts and Leafs are right in the price range I'm looking at, and I only want it for a commuter, so I don't need a ton of range or a vast charging network. I imagine a lot of other consumers feel similarly.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Tesla's sales in the second quarter of 2024 fell to 49.7 percent of all US EV sales.

Unless the other 50.3% were of a single company, which i highly doubt, i fail to grasp how Tesla lost market dominance.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

They lost dominance because they aren't the majority anymore, just the plurality. It's not a hard concept.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

This deserves a pay package in the billions.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Its all good, Elon got paid.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

giving elon another bonus should fix it

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’m sure there will be someone to lick up Elon’s Nazi tears

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Elon Musk Will Reinstate Neo-Nazi on Twitter https://lamag.com/internet/elon-musk-will-reinstate-neo-nazi-on-twitter

Elon Musk expresses support for antisemitic post on X, calling it "the actual truth" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-antisemitic-comments-x-post-actual-truth/

Can't send links to actual tweets as the site is terrible now and won't let me enter it without an account. The second link is notable for promoting anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, like the Great Replacement.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

That’s crazy they had above 50%, though I guess they were the only EV-only company in North America (I believe?).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"EV sales exceeded expectations during a record-breaking quarter," said Cox's industry insights director Stephanie Valdez Streaty.

Much of the growth in electric vehicle sales is due to new kit from General Motors, Cox said, with additional strong showings from Ford, Hyundai and Kia.

A recent study on EV adoption from Cox reiterates those points and predicts US car buyers are keen on electric tech.

Increased competition "is leading to continued price pressure, helping push EV adoption slowly higher," she opined.

2024 hasn't been a great one for Tesla, which has seen worsening sales declines, an arson attack, mass layoffs, fallout from the Cybertruck launch and more lawsuits than you can shake a stick at - and all that's before the troubles owner Elon Musk has caused for the company.

It's not clear how far that market share could dip in coming years as EV buyers begin to migrate away from startups toward companies with established histories.


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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Good, tesla looks like a shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My buddy at work just bought one and I am not impressed or at least it doesn't feel the same as the first time I sat in one about 5 years ago.

It looks cheap on the inside I noticed paneling off. The only thing I truly love about it is how quiet it is when he is driving. It is insanely peaceful and the car does look clean just cheap. It's unfortunate because they are good looking cars in the outside but damn they just aren't impressive when you are in one.

I wouldn't tell him that he loves it and if he loves it then he loves it.

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