Maybe they should write a letter in support of the stoner cats to the SEC. Here, I'll start it for you.
Stoner Cats are role models, and set an extraordinary standard around how you treat other people.
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I lost so much respect for them. Fuck Ashton Kutcher and fuck Mila Kunis. Hypocrite cunts, the lot of them.
My respect for them was lost long ago. Ashton was being all buddy buddy with Danny throughout the whole trial and using the whole "innocent till proven guilty" defense. Meanwhile he didn't give that benefit to any of the people he had arrested through his organization. Ashton built a rep by condemning suspected rapists before they even went to trial, but when the rapist is his buddy Danny, suddenly things are different.
I mean you can understand why he did it. If a person you are close to is accused of the same thing you would do the same. And when is saying “innocent until proven guilty” became a bad thing. Are we really starting to persecute people people before they are proven guilty? I understand what he did damaged lot of lives but also understand there are people who falsely accused others and ruined their lives. Now coming to ashton being a hypocrite and not giving same benefit of doubt is not something i can comment on because I do not follow his life. I hope now that danny is proven guilt aston understands what kind of person danny is.
My understanding is that the letter he and Mila wrote in defense of Danny was after Danny was found guilty. They were asking for a more lenient sentence.
“Innocent until proven guilty” isn’t really the problem. That’s the assumption the government has to make, and it’s a pretty good idea.
He’s not the government nor is he acting in a legal capacity. It’s perfectly fine - it’s even perfectly logical - to look at the evidence brought against someone and decide that they’re guilty. I think Trump is guilty as fuck. It doesn’t mean he’s going to get a guilty verdict, but he sure as hell did the things he’s charged with, and more.
Ashton’s position was that his friend was innocent. Despite the testimony of the women involved, he played coy. Again, that’s his right, but it’s something you’d expect from someone with a more obviously misogynistic history. A better statement would have been something like “I know Danny, and I can’t imagine him doing that. I hope he didn’t commit those rapes and that he is found innocent, but the women deserve to be heard and I hope justice is done.” He could even leave off the bit about justice if he’s still wanting to go to Danny’s holiday party.
Anyway, what people are really pissed about is that, after all the evidence was presented and the guilty verdict was returned, both he and Mila wrote letters to the judge asking for leniency in sentencing and stating that he was not a danger to anyone. That’s throwing shit right into the faces of the women he raped. They chose to side with their Hollywood friend over the victims he raped, because they think he’s still a nice guy despite it all. It’s offensive to everyone, but especially to rape victims. It’s hard enough to go to trial and get a conviction for a rapist. It is estimated that over 450,000 rapes occur in the US each year. There’s only about 3000 rape convictions per year. That’s a less than 1% chance that a rape results in a conviction. It’s also a traumatic process for the victim, who faces everything from victim blaming to having to relive the event over and over and in public.
So, they’re both assholes in my book. No talent ass-clowns, if you like. I hope this stays around long enough to get them blacklisted. Let it be an albatross around their necks.
I don’t follow celebrity or pop culture so it doesn’t make it to my radar till they do some dumb shit like this and show their true colors.
It’s like there’s 3 decent people in all of Hollywood. But yeah, celebrities are not your friends. And anyone involved in NFT is the scum of the earth.
It's funny how they're getting crucified but kurtwood Smith and Debra jo Rupp are getting away with it cause they kept their mouths shut and haven't responded to the controversy.
Yep, silence is usually the way to go.
Plus if you're gonna do an apology, don't do it looking like you just woke out of bed and are being forced to say these things. Everything about that apology was wrong on every level lol. So insincere.
Mila was trying really hard to not roll her eyes toward the end there.
I’ve never heard those names in my life. Probably part of the reason.
Edit: I just asked my partner if she had ever heard those names and she said they were the other cast members of That 70’s Show, so I probably know who they are but never their names.
It's the parents
Clarence Boddicker
It reminds me a bit of the whole Eva Green controversy, where it was revealed she called other people peasants.
She's a star, she knows she's a star, she's not going to pretend she's not a star. Haughty, imperious, out of touch. Weirdly, my respect for her grew after that whole thing.
Nothing worse than a star who pretends to be humble or contrite.
Ashton and Mila would have been far better saying nothing or only commenting through their representation like the A-listers they are.
A-listers they are
Or were. Kutcher hasn't had a decent movie.... Well ever. I feel worse for Kunis who was a legitimate star until recently but has kinda gone into the shit here by association.
Nah. She also wrote a letter. That's not just "gone into the shit by association." She's just as bad as him.
I mean I agree she shouldn't have written the letter and that neither of them should've, but it's not as if they actually raped the women. So it's all by association.
Edit: and she didn't even make the pervy groomer comments during the trucker hat era
NFTs worth around $800 each
I'm gonna stop you right there...
Yeah that 'worth' word is pulling a lot of weight in that sentence.
Funny how the Kardashians never got smoked by the SEC. They were reported for the same exact shit.
Edit looks like Kim got a slap on the wrist. Her net worth is 1.7 billion and she got fined ~a million dollars. She paid 0.05% of her net worth for breaking a law and fucking over many thousands of poor people. Fuck that.
They did. It’s mentioned and linked in the article. https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/03/kim-kardashian-charged-by-sec-for-pushing-crypto-reaches-1-26m-settlement/
Nice to see celebrities bitch slapped back into place. Now do the same with CEO's.
Martha did time. She should pick who goes next.
So today we've learned once again, that given enough money, breaking the law and scamming people is fine
This isn't even a controversial opinion: celebrities shouldn't endorse things that they know nothing about, especially things as dumb and scammy as NFTs and crypto.
celebrities shouldn’t endorse things that they know nothing about
That is the celebrity business model: Get paid to be the pretty face of shit you know nothing about.
Nah. You are putting your face and reputation on the line every time you endorse something on any media, it's certainly NOT free money just for posting some tweets.
So, don't sell people's trust in you for money, it's not worth it, otherwise, there always a chance that this happens and you face consequences for your carelessness.
Yes! Not just face/reputation but they can be legally involved. Such as the recent suit with FTX and all the celebrities involved
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EWZylEVJvPc&si=b7rML2niOrJDcIjM
Nah, they do this shit all the time and there is no real consequences
Exhibit A
But every time people talk about Matt Damon nowadays, they are talking about how bad his endorsement of crypto.com is, instead of how good of actor he is.
Reputation.
Has he been sued for pumping up that fraudulent business?
Nope.
there is no real consequences
I guess that depends on what you term a “real” consequence. If legal justice is the only “real” consequence then yeah, there’s been no “real” consequence. But we could sit and debate for hours about what constitutes a “real” consequence as it’s an arbitrary term.
Real: (n) existing in fact and not imaginary
That is what I meant by real.
Yeah, the creators of exploding kittens bought into NFC's and tried to sell them to people. Now, I refuse to buy any of their products. Great job, guys.
Stoner Cats sounds so incredibly bland. "Weed but with cats, teehee"
Eh the problem here is that nfts are a scam. At end of day celebrities will just move on the next endorsement, pay a small fine who cares.
Nfts have scammed millions from people who can't see pay the get rich quick pyramid scheme.
So it kind of sucks they did this, as their implementation of NFT's was a decent use case for NFT's outside of being investments. DRM rights that abide by first sale doctrine even if company dies is a good reason for a blockchain. Too bad they decided to treat it as something to invest in.
What the fuck is a good NFT implementation, something that works? Or something that might be beneficial for humankind like at all?
It's just crap, sha an image, toss it into a blockchain, ... uh, ...profit?
What a scam and waste of people's brains.
The only thing I've heard that made sense was using it for things like contracts? But even then barely.
if the company dies, so does the server that hosts the image that your nft links to. If the company dies, the nft dies with it, regardless of who currently "owns" it, or how many times it's been resold
What rights do you have after a first sale if the company the original contract was with dies? Someone else going to honor your NFT? What if the company also owned the blockchain your NTF is on?
Surely someone would have spent the $800 to get access to the tv series, make it available on the internet and blow the value of all the NFTs out of the water.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The SEC has charged the Hollywood power couple’s NFT-based web series, “Stoner Cats,” calling the NFTs unregistered securities.
Per the SEC, “Stoner Cats is an adult animated television show about house cats that become sentient after being exposed to their owner’s medical marijuana.” By buying one of 10,000 NFTs worth around $800 each, fans could get exclusive access to the six-episode animated series, which features celebrities like Jane Fonda, Chris Rock and Seth MacFarlane.
Another great quote from this formal SEC document: “@StonerCatsTV tweeted on September 7, 2021 a meme suggesting that the smartest thing to do during a dip in the crypto markets would be to ‘Buy more ETH & sweep the Stoner Cats floor.
There will also be a Fair Fund that will return money to people who were financially harmed by purchasing the NFTs.
Last year, Kim Kardashian reached a $1.26 million settlement with the SEC over failing to properly disclose that she was being paid to promote a crypto asset security sold by EthereumMax.
“Regardless of whether your offering involves beavers, chinchillas or animal-based NFTs, under the federal securities laws, it’s the economic reality of the offering – not the labels you put on it or the underlying objects – that guides the determination of what’s an investment contract and therefore a security,” said Gurbir S. Grewal, director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement, in a statement.
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