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With media and celebs now promoting their twitter alternatives, is it worth trying to entice them over to mastodon/lemmy? (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've seen many tv shows (eg debate shows and news programs) start to promote threads, instagram and bluesky.. and no longer mentioning twitter. I never see any mention of Mastodon or Lemmy. Or anything similar.

Should we be trying to push these to these people? Or are we better without them there (case in example is the misinformation pushed by shows like the Jeremy Vine Show, GB News and generally the rightwing tabloids)??

What do you see as the benefits, and what do you see as the disadvantages?

Cheers people!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

For celebrities, I don't think it makes a lot of sense. Celebrities do appearances on social media to promote themselves. What they're going to care about is reach. If there are lots of people on a social media platform, it makes sense to do a promo event there. Neither Mastodon nor the Threadiverse is all that big right now.

I mean, there probably are celebs out there, but under pseudonyms.

On Reddit, the only celebrity I remember running around openly for a long time when Reddit was small (and just hanging out, not doing promotional stuff), was Wil Wheaton.

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Heh, looks like he's still there:

https://reddit.com/u/wil

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I mean, there probably are celebs out there, but under pseudonyms.

Hypothetically speaking, if a famous person did run around Lemmy under their real name and openly promoting their work here, who is going to believe them? 🙂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Peter Mayhew was on there for a long, long time. Warwick Davies too. Rick Astley had been lured there in the past for AMAs iirc...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I dunno what their accounts are, if they're still active, but Wil Wheaton was early. Lessee...what's his account age?

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redditor for 18 years

And how about Reddit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit

Founded: June 23, 2005; 18 years ago

Yeah, this is what Reddit looked like at the end of 2005:

https://web.archive.org/web/20051231232715/http://reddit.com/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

The more on Lemmy the better, across the board. But convincing them to actually do so seems unlikely unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Way ahead of you on that.

There is always risks in going to a new social platform, but also the reward for being an early adopter is also great if the platform gets big, and I'd say the Barbie promotion here last year overall went pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No thanks, the second Lemmy starts to fill up with self-centred wankers and ads, I'm out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No. Who fucking cares.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Username checks out.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy mastodon don't have advertisers to pay for exposure.

Lemmy is over obsessively political and left leaning. Too many different people pushing political agendas, with silly rules, emotionally unhinged moderators and admins.

Normal sane people don't have time for that shit.

Lemmy will remain small, mostly toxic userbase and mod and admin teams pushing political propaganda

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Neither did Twitter and Reddit in the beginning. And I dont see them adverting on telly, etc.

I dont think being political or left leaning is a bad thing tbh. I consider myself from a centre-right background/family but these lot have welcomed me in, largely. 😄 I've not had any issues with mods or admin here, though I did on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

More then likely because you follow the heard, as do most sheep. So go figure the welcoming arms.

Lemmy will never become 'big' look up some of what the developers have said in AMA posts. They're goal is to prevent centralization.

Centralized = Makes money aka profit

Decentralized = Doesn't make profit, social media for hobbyist, provides no revenue but that doesn't matter because no advertising. No one investing in it or backing financially.

How to fix that ? Become centralized. That won't happen.

look at the Stark differences. centralized social media starts with a CEO who is either backed by investors or is Rich like Elon Musk and can buy his own fucking social media site and become the owner and ceo.

Ultimately they're making a profit doesn't matter if it's less than what it was before Elon Musk bought it in terms of Twitter it can go up and down.

But with decentralized social media it's open source so it's available for anyone to create their own instance you don't have to be an expert on anything hell you can even hire someone to do it for you to set it all up for you.

All you have to do is be a politically obsessed admin and press the band button in your basement.

There are no ads that brings in no money therefore admins server admins don't get paid for their time.

There is no incentive for anyone to want to get involved and make decentralized social media like Lemmy popular because there's no money in it.

And if let's say lemmy does become popular well guess what you're going to start seeing ads and your precious admins and mods are going to start asking for people to cut them checks and they're going to be told straight up the only way you're going to get paid is if you become centralized.

And you know what they're going to do?

They're going to agree and become centralized and then y'all are going to be mad that Lemmy is now centralized and not decentralized anymore.

It's all about fucking money dude people don't do shit for free especially if lemmy becomes super popular you think admins and mods aren't going to be sitting there asking for a piece?

I mean come on dude sorry to sound like a fucking asshole I just mean don't be so naive if you want something to become popular like a social media site you need to appeal to a vast variety of an audience not just one little piece of an audience.

Lemmy's favorite audience is leftist democratic obsessed political bullshit okay you're never going to get big doing that crap.

Lemmy doesn't even participate in non-political communities there is no growth in that regard. so this just appeals to all the politically obsessed people on the left all right I don't know how you can't see that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Are you talking to someone professional? Thats quite some post. Concerning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Lemmy is over obsessively political and left leaning.

Eh, I don't think that that'll persist if it keeps growing. Like, when Reddit started out, it was mostly people interested in CS and startups. Kinda more like the Slashdot crowd (which, incidentally, was where I came from when I went to Reddit). It was not representative of the larger population. Then as people kept coming in, they built up their own communities.