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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/17795616

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I see no reason why, after the Fediverse has found a solid moral ground, it shouldn’t put this up to the test against Meta and try to win over some terretory with it. Actually, it seems like the most sensible thing to do. Because we want to bring these digital rights to as many people as possible, and for that, we need to partially federate with Meta.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No. No no no no no no no NO. Do NOT federate with big tech. good lord people simply do not learn their lesson.

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

There's many good reasons to not federate with meta, the first is that big tech often join foss projects, fund it and then abandon it and let it die. History prove it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It’s protocols over platforms. I’m not too worried about the protocol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

We've seen time and again what happens when a mega gets a foothold in something grassroots: Embrace, extend, extinguish.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Simple: kick out Meta. There is no solution in which you take in anything of theirs and they don't take that a country mile to extinguish your shit. Or have we not learned ANYTHING from the era of Silicon Valley neofeudalists buying up everything with even an iota of soul and murdering it just to make a point?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have any resources to journalistic articles that describe the way in which Meta implementing ActivityPub would be bad for the Fediverse?

Happy to highlight any [email protected] human rights concerns (right to privacy, right to share opinions, etc.) on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is the evidence of your eyes with every new Meta acquisition not enough? Is what happened to XMPP not enough? The last twenty-four years of technological history is littered with these robber barons embracing, extending, and extinguishing everything that competes with them, and you're gonna ask me for journalistic articles WRITTEN BY THE SAME FLUFFMEISTERS THAT SOFTBALL THESE ROBBER BARONS????

You're a fuckin riot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Whatsapp wasn't ever federated. Was it?

Google did not yet close the doors with email. You can still use email and communicate with everyone and everyone has the right to choose another service, yet most tend to use google, even many people on apple devices that I know.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We need journalism, not vitriol, in [email protected] <- I'm the moderator there. Just saying, if you see something in the news that speaks to the human right to privacy, we'll spread the news if you cross-post it.

Article 12, UN UDHR

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.