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I am talking to you, Blizzard (MWIII)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I remember when virtually every single game allowed you to play a 'Demo' for free, so you could find out exactly what the gameplay is like in any game before playing it. They often came in my cereal boxes as a kid, or free to pick up at the checkout. I still have a cool CD from the 2000s which has like five big studio name Demos in one.

Now that's Pepperidge Farm Remembers. Or did I out myself as too old?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I still have the demo discs that used to come with PC Gaming Magazine. Haha. We're old. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steam Next Fest kind of breaks this comment apart.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Steam Next Fest

Demos still exist, sure. Just not anywhere to the scale and pervasiveness that they used to. Nor do they come in cereal boxes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It used to be called early access. At least it wasn't a misleading term.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, ‘open beta’ was the term for a long time; early access is a newer thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're misunderstanding what I mean. Early Access is a newer term for getting paid access to a game early. Open beta is an older term but was used for free access to a game early for testing purposes. They used to have different meanings which is why early access was created as a new term to distinguish it from a beta. Calling paid early access a beta is intentionally misleading.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Alright, thanks for the clarification! Honestly, I think both terms are misused all the time and I have just stopped caring about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Early access is a much newer term, an open beta used to be a period of time you could play a beta build of a game and then give feedback to the developers on how to tweak it so they could take that information and build it out/QA it before release. Like Halo 3 before it launched, when you could apply at Bungie.net for access on Xbox live.

Then eventually the term "beta" just became synonymous with "demo" as the "beta's" started coming out within time periods that were unrealistic for the company to actually make changes to for the release date, and had no structure with which to give the developer feedback. Why? Because it's not a beta, it's a demo.

Early access was popularized after game devs began realizing that people would literally pay for a game that wasn't finished and might never be, essentially game development as a service. Thanks Star Citizen, for showing people you can make millions with a tech demo. Now broken on release and months of patches to get the game in the state it should have been on launch is the standard, because people keep buying this shit on launch day.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate this trend.

Attack from Tarkov

Star Citizen

The only one that I've played that has bucked that trend is Valheim. It's relatively bug free and the gameplay is smooth as hell.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure Baldurs Gate 3 was another example..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow Star Citizen is in beta already?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heh I wish. Being stuck in "pre-alpha" for an entire decade (yet marketing it as playable) can't be a good look for them, especially since Starfield is already out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

checks their reported income

I'm sure starcitizen doesn't mind that it's not a good look.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Preordering is in no way necessary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

To play MWIII on battlenet, you bet it is. I opted not to, but that's the gimmick lately

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The only games I played in early anything were Slay the Spire, Hades and Against the Storm.

I never wagered on shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

endless dungeons?

edit: I see now you were referring to MWII

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean the random selection signups? I think only WoW's first stress test was a straight "anyone can download" open beta....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

nah, used to be that was closed beta. Palia is currently in “open beta” but its actually just PC exclusive launch because there are no further wipes.

Used to be the terminology was strict and easily understood. Now its just whatever the dev wants to claim it is.

Open Beta used to be “game is free for a week then we will wipe, do any backend fixes we identified, and then launch”. Last MMO that did that that I can concretely remember was SWTOR.