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Nice, the cheapest model with a 13th gen Intel starts at 779 USD, and the AMD variant starts at 799 USD. Still expensive, but a lot more affordable than the last time I had a look.
Plus think of cost over time due to repairability and the increased lifespan of the laptop. You're recouping the costs after a point.
Closer to $1k for an actual functional machine.
I ended up going with a Lenovo laptop due to the cost. My next laptop is probably going to be a Framework.
My lenovo cost like $2k. Framework seems cheaper?
Mine was about €800, it has a pretty fast CPU, enough RAM, and fast integrated graphics. The only downside is that it's completely unrepairable.
I'm excited that they continue to innovate and listen to customers. I own two Framework laptops, and I'm thrilled that I can easily upgrade to this version without having to replace the whole thing.
Even better that I can replace parts as they wear out, or as I feel. I love the monitor, so no need to replace it now. If it ever gets damaged though, I can grab the upgraded one without changing anything else. If the battery starts to suck, I can update to a higher Wh one.
Such a great product (so far).
As always, you can pick up any of the new modules in the Framework Marketplace to upgrade and extend the life of the Framework Laptop you already own.
When they say modules, does that mean mainboards? Like I can take an older Framework Laptop 13 and upgrade the processor?
Yes!
They have released multiple new mainboards for the framework 13 which upgraded the cpu. This is a new mainboard with the latest intel cpus. They have always allowed everyone to just buy the board so they can upgrade their existing framework 13's, thats their whole stick : modularity.
This time they also have a new screen panel and battery you could get to upgrade your system.
Also obviously new systems can be bought with the new hardware from the get go too.
I have a framework 16 that my boss got for me. Im a trial to see if we can save money by going framework instead of dell for the laptops developers use as things like the ports on the side, batteries and mainboards are easily replaced and upgraded. No need to waste +2600 euro every 3 years per laptop either if we can just swap the mainboard. They didnt want to finance the gpu, but when the laptop is mine after 3 years i will probably get the gpu for it :)
(In a framework 16 a gpu can be plugged in or replaced. Framework 13's always use integrated gpu )
That is awesome. This seperates them from the easy to fix laptops. I don't know of many modern laptops where upgrading a processor is even possible.
Thanks!
It isn’t so much replacing the CPU as it is replacing the entire motherboard, but it’s still better than what we’ve historically dealt with.
Youre right, but with framework the motherboard isnt hard connected to the connectors/ports of the laptop. Or any hardware really.
Yep. It’s literally designed to be repaired. A nice change of pace.
I agree. When i got my framework 16 it just felt like suddenly i had freedom in my hands, a breath of fresh air. It was amazing in the first week learning all the hooks and crannies of their mad design and open schematics.
Remind Me! One year. How's that working out?
When they say modules, does that mean mainboards?
They mean each part. Here's their store for individual parts.
This announcement includes a new display, so anyone with the old display can swap out their old one for the new one. People can swap out batteries. Keyboards. Touchpads. It's a modular design so that each module can be swapped out if broken, or if there's been an upgrade the user wants.
Being able to upgrade the those things is such a killer feature for me. My next laptop will probably from Framework. Thanks for the info!
you would upgrade the processor by upgrading the mainboard (cpu+mobo+heatsink) as a single item. module is used because there are a lot of parts on a framework that can be individually changed (usb ports, screen, battery, webcam, speakers, hinges, bezels)
I thought module just meant expansion cards. Oops.
Thanks for the info!
That sounds extremely bulky. Does it fit on your lap?
I think you replied to the wrong comment. If you didn't please clarify so I can better answer your question.
I hope eventually we get an ARM-powered Framework.
Bought a Framework shortly after Linus Techmin joined forces with them. Was stolen out of my partner's car a few months later and just haven't been able to justify (or afford) a replacement.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Framework, the popular maker of customizable, modular and upgradable laptops has announced a big upgrade for the Framework Laptop 13 across both Intel and AMD models.
The newest version of Framework Laptop 13 comes with the latest Intel Core Ultra Series 1 processors, an optional 13.5" 2880x1920 120 Hz display on both Intel and AMD systems, a new webcam with 9.2MP image sensor, and configurations designed for businesses and professionals with a 3-year warranty.
Pre-orders are open now with shipping starting in August for all 14 countries they're currently in, and they're launching in Sweden, Finland, and Denmark this June.
On top of that the AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Framework Laptop 13 has seen a permanent price reduction, and it also has the new 2.8k display and webcam along with the high-capacity 61Wh battery.
Nice to see Linux repeatedly get mentioned too, as they said: "Our focus this year is on refining the end-to-end experience for both current and new customers, making this the ideal laptop for Linux in addition to Windows, and enabling businesses to enter the world of repairable, customizable computing".
and for those of you who don't want a Windows logo on your keyboard they additionally said "We have one last bit of good news for Linux users too: you can now configure an English International keyboard with a “super” key instead of the logo from an OS you aren’t using.
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I just want a RISC-V mainboard...
We're a ways away from reaching equivalent performance characteristics of the currently available options they have with RISC V, but I would also love to see that as well.
I couldn't care less about performance, I use OpenBSD as my desktop; I just want an open architecture that doesn't have some backdoor like Intel ME/AMD PSP and better battery life.
That's fair enough, though one of the characteristics I had in mind was also battery life (that said, it would be at a given level of performance so either way).
Also definitely not thrilled about things like ME, Pluton and so on.
Still not touchscreen, I'll pass.
Cool tho, 13 is pretty much the perfect size for me.
I have a fist-gen Framework 13 (Intel 11). If I want to upgrade to fully match the new gear, what needs upgrading..?
Off the top of my head:
I should probably get a new keyboard as well, as I'm one of the people with the DEL key randomly going dead.
I already replaced:
I can hold on to the £10 wireless card, the PCIe3 SSD that I bought after WD just died one day, and the compressed alufoil that is the main body.
Well fuck me.
Well the good news is yoi don't have to upgrade anything, or everything at once. You can get the display now and when your CPU isn't enough switch mobo and ram then.
Why would you need to upgrade the camera, speakers, battery, or display?
Upgrade what you need based on bottlenecks to your work.