Consider getting a Pixel as your next phone, immediately flash GrapheneOS onto it and never look back. Its very easy to do.
this post was submitted on 09 May 2024
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This is option 5!
The default install is really clean, you can run all the Google services you want, you can install them in their own user account, or profile, and not share with other accounts. You have full control. The only thing that doesn't work is tap to pay
Android Device Policy (ie: the spyware that is work profiles) doesn't work either. An important FYI for folks whose personal device doubles as their work device.
What do you mean work profiles don't work?
I'm using a work profile on grapheneos right now.
Well that's interesting because what this individual posted about is the exact behaviour I experienced trying to get my work's Slack connection set up.
Not sure what you did to circumvent this.
Ahh. I see what you mean. Android device policy, doesn't work. But setting up work profiles with shelter does work.
So giving a third party control of your phone doesn't work on grapheneos, which makes sense.
Isn't work profiles the opposite of spyware because it insulates everything else on your device from company resources?
But then Android Auto and NFC payment like Wallet/Pay won't work…
I think Graphene supports Auto. Its the only thing that makes me want to switch from Calyx
My car doesn't support android auto but I would really miss nfc payments at this point.
Android Auto is supported. Payments are the only thing holding me back currently. But that's not something the developers of GrapheneOS can change unfortunately.
Yeah, if you're going as far as rooting and Magisk, go the extra half step and install App Manager (io.github.muntashirakon.AppManager). With profiles and 1-Click ops, you can disable trackers, freeze apps, revoke permissions. It's like a 1000 pound scalpel.
It's on the F-droid repos.
Fantastic suggestion - love it, thanks!
App Manager FTW
Yeah, I only buy phones with good Custom ROM support and then I flash them without Google Apps. I don't think banking apps would be happy about that, though.
Many banking apps work on GrapheneOS: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/
This is good tech reviewing. Pithy and unforgiving.
It’s not a google thing specifically to be honest. Tapping into phones happened way before android was a thing.
Smartphones, both android and iOS, just make it easier for them to tap.
Just download ublock. Problem solved, obviously.
Option 5: throw your spyware pile of trash phone in the garbage can where it belongs.