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m3u (iptv) server which is not Jellyfin? (lemdro.id)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Jellyfin is very unreliable with live tv in my experience. It takes ages to reload a playlist and sometimes the old channels still appear in library. Is there a better alternative?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Plex. Emby.

[+] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because they are doing things in their best interest and not the end user.

As so many like to say here the enshitification is happening.

If you want to self host, plex isn't it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have run Jellyfin for about 3 years. Plex has a lot of community support and praise so I spun up a test instance. Unfortunately for Jellyfin, Plex is much most reliable for me in pretty much every way. I would love for Jellyfin to keep improving but the switch to Plex just made the media experience so much nicer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I run both concurrently. I have a plex pass from way back when, maybe a decade or more.

What plex is now is not what it once was. Trying to socialize viewing habits, opting in by default to analysis, ads, reviews, and sharing that info has gone too far. Plex also works on these features such as discovery which benefits them, instead of open bugs.

That us why I can't recommend it.

As for a feature comparison. Jellyfin is snappier, and faster. Plex is more detailed in their interface, and has better Metadata. Jellyfin sometimes doesn't restart where I left off. Jellyfin is much, much better on mobile devices, but has less clients for tv's. Jellyfin doesn't rely on any server but my own, where plex wants to authenticate with thier own servers and ask for accounts (and money) to have full functionality. Jellyfin always downloads to a client. Plex...might. Plex has better handling of multiple streams in one file.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’ll ask the questions I ask Jellyfin users that, if they’re all (or mostly) yes will get me (and a lot of other people) to switch:

Does Jellyfin have:

Music filtering/smart playlists?
Sonic analysis of music to generate smart playlists?
Good 4k/x265 performance?
A third party (or built in) utility that shows me streaming usage per person? (Think Tautulli) Allows me to limit remote users to streaming from a single IP address at a time?
Let’s me watch something together with another remote user?
Has an app for most any device (like Plex or Emby) that does NOT require sideloading?
Has built in native DVR steaming/recording support?
Two factor authentication?
Doesn’t default new clients to 720p for remote streaming?
Easy login of other devices by entering in a randomly generated four character code?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pyrosis did a great job answering a lot of your questions, I will focus again on why I cannot recommend plex:

Opt-In is not acceptable. You need to opt-out of: data sharing, data sharing with partners (unless you are in the UK or specific States), sharing playback data, stopping discovery together and activity feed, and turning off all of their live tv and streaming services.

Sharing streaming habits with others is not something that ever should have been opt-out. They keep pushing the line.

By the way, several of the "features" you mention are not included by default. Hardware decoding, downloads, DVR, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Opt-In is not acceptable.

Fair point and agree 100%.

…several of the "features" you mention are not included by default.

Never made any mention that they were there by default; I’m asking if they exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Music playlists are different from Plex. You can create them import them or generate an instant list.

4k is seamless and performs better imo. You can use transcoding or not if you have files they way you want them. If you do you can select on a per user basis who gets to transcode.

You can set bandwidth limits.

I've seen a feature to allow multi user streaming the same movie so you ig watch at the same time. I use npm and often a couple peeps might watch a movie at the same time without using this feature and works fine

I use the client app on Android and a firestick atm. I think I just downloaded it but you can side load too if you want. The media server app is available for various os. So technically you could set it up on whatever you want. Just check your app store

https://jellyfin.org/downloads/clients/

It can plug into homebrew or m3u playlists for live tv if that is your suggestion. It has a plugin for nextpvr and tvheadend if you utilize those for over the air or already have an m3u setup too in those pvr services. Those are great btw and available in docker containers.

It always defaulted to what I have my files encoded. It absolutely can transcode to support other clients and you decide preferences. I did notice since most of my files are h.264 with few h265 sometimes it helped to turn off transcoding for me because the client supported it natively. Jellyfin was transcoding h265 mkv to like an MP4. Anyway a quirk

Login is pretty simple. Passwords users can change. Has codes it can generate to approve a new device if you are already logged into an app on your phone. Like 6 temp numbers. Can also setup pins or whatever they call them under users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I was going to reply to this and then decided I don’t care anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

https://github.com/Threadfin/Threadfin

https://github.com/SenexCrenshaw/StreamMaster

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Thanks but I don't seem to get the point of these proxies. What do they do exactly? Can you give me an example please?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

@[email protected] 1 week

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you using tvheadend and their jellyfin plugin? Asking out of curiosity.

https://github.com/tvheadend/tvheadend

Anyway Plex and emby come to mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

No i just imported an m3u into jellyfin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If you need it for Android than try TiviMate. Its a payed app (annually or lifetime), but its the best one I found. Free version should work enough to try it out. I got lifetime and love it, but sometimes EPG doesnt work (could be issue with my provider tho)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sorry i should have said i wanted a server not a client.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Oh ok, I've never seen something like that. Let me know if you find a solution

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Oh then definitely tvheadend. You can run the server lots of ways even docker. Also has plugin support.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

then* try TiviMate
It's* a paid* app
but it's* the best

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

There, their its are not it's they're its. It's as simple as "its", as it's the its it's.