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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Credulous is the word.

Under the guise of objectivity he gives all fringe opinions equal significance.

Edit: here's a good explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZAQYI_hYp0

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm okay with skeptical and verifying but he doesn't challenge all his guests equally. I'm not saying he should be perfect, but there are some really far out ideas that need more questioning before I'm personally satisfied.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he is a cunt, literally lied about how he heard they are putting cat litter into classes so that kids eho identify as cats have somewhere to go, then when called out on it that it's bullshit he just said it's a joke or something.

the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn't go everywhere

it's covered in Some more News' Moral panic video

https://youtu.be/oAeKAJFrb0w

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn't go everywhere

Do Americans not realize how fucked up their country sounds to the rest of us when they do this kind of shit instead of controlling you-know-what?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We absolutely do. Our country has been captured and held hostage by a small minority of selfish morons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gun control is tricky; studies that I've seen show that a large majority want "dune kind of gun control" but any discussion of what that entails starts to get less popular in a hurry.

I've found that many otherwise reasonable people get upset really quickly when the subject even gets brought up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Holtzman shields. They only allow matter to pass when that matter is going slowly enough, making guns useless.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

His show is entertainment first and foremost. That means glorifying stupid bullshit for the entertainment value of it.

Most hard science is boring. Most fringe theory thinking is dramatic and thrilling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would rather someone excitedly tell me about how gravitational lensing is usedto view a black hole over listening to some fuckwit go on about how there is an Ice wall around the flat earth patrolled by Navies to prevent the truth that Nasa faked Australia coming out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nasa faked Australia

As an Australian, this is wild and I want to know more.

Edit: Woah. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/australia-doesnt-exit-people-who-live-actors-paid-nasa-kurt-nielsen

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Speak for yourself. Hard science isn't boring to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

His mind's so open his brain fell out

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that though. I want to hear these wack jobs talk. I don’t listen to get smarter, just like I don’t go to McDonalds for a fine cooked meal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And that's fine, if you understand that these are wack jobs who shouldn't be taken seriously. Most of Rogan's listeners definitely don't

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you told Joe that Apple own a warehouse full of genetically altered chickens that actually laid iPhones he'd stare at you, slack-jawed and wonder why this hasn't been reported in the press. Just a fucking clown from his toes to his eyelashes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How did you find out about the iChickens? That's a trade secret.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

ahem I think you'll find they are called iHens, actually. Each one has been spliced with Jobs' DNA, so instead of clucking they constantly say 'boom'.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem with Rogan is that he doesn't have the knowledge or qualifications to push back against people spewing bullshit on his show, and so he ends up essentially making fringe, pseudo-scientific ideas seem equal to the mainstream expert consensus view.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

the problem with rogan is that he agrees with the worst people on his show. he doesn't push back because he doesn't want to. he peaked on news radio.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And the outspoken wrong on the show people are oftentimes cool and charismatic, so people trust them.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

YAYUH! What we need is a ministry of truth to protect the public!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I stopped listening to his podcasts when I realised he doesn't know the facts and spews what he believes are facts. I admire him to hold a conversation for as long as he does and keep it somewhat entertaining but beyond that it's nothing more than pseudo science.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Barbarian Khan

yes the culture that happens to adapt/improve/recruit tech, culture and people from all over the place is the ''barbarian''

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was always under the assumption that 'barbarian' was specifically the term Romans used to refer to any non Romans north of the empire?

Still, funny shitpost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That’s the historical root of the term, but “barbaric” and “barbarian” also have long histories as diminutive due to colonialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Man's got tiny soda can nipples

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That used to be true. He got sucked into the right wing echo chamber real though and he has getting worse as time goes on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems to me a lot of people here pretty hostile to Joe. I can only say he has been more than open and interacted with good faith with guests that I listen to than anyone in "media". His talk with Bernie Sanders and his agreement with certain aspects of Sanders agenda should dismiss the claim that he's a libertarian shill. I try to approach him as a topic in good faith as well.

He's being called a neandertal because he seems to agree with a lot of fringe opinions. I try to think of how I would react if talking to a person who I have no idea about their area of expertise and how I would deal with claims that they make. Sure he gives a voice to cranks, but he also gives voice to people across the spectrum, some that I actually want other people to hear from. That's kind of what free speech is about right there.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Sure he has some left-leaning guests, but he also claims that January 6th was instigated by the FBI, and pushes an anti-healthcare agenda. The ire he gets is well earned and justified.

Do you really trust someone who took numerous traumatic hits to the head to give solid political and health advice?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Joe think you are wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah they are wrong, Joe isn't a dumb guy, he's not doing what he's doing because he's some dumb meathead, he's doing it for money, fame, and to finally be part of the in-groups, which means power, he finally has a president(Trump) that accepts him and hob knobs with him.

Joe has always been a cynical self serving libertarian type, if you went back and listened or watched some of his old standup comedy you would get a better idea of how far Rogan has fallen, he's become a lot of what he hated. There was a time when people used to think that Joe would be the next George Carlin, now he's just a more palatable and successful Alex Jones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You're reading way too much into it, his original stand up was never clever.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every post that hits /all/ from this comm is either misogyny or casual racism like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because that's what people upvote after all. Rage always gets more engagement.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not what "people" upvote, it's what white people upvote, because they're racists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's what I noticed about the 4chan-related subreddits, too. It's basically all 4chan has to offer. "haha, we're racist!" or equivalent.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Racist against who? 13th century Mongols?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Against Mongols. But it is also incredibly chuavanist in general toward all tribal people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is it though? I'm not sure the various Mongol empires are exactly your typical tribal people. I'm not sure you can even call them tribal people at all in the modern sense. They were an empire spanning a vast region of the world at one point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah I mean, if anything, mongols were imperialistic, expanding their empire during the 13th and 14th centuries and using violence to do so.

They were tribal PRIOR to Khan uniting them in to a single empire that then spread in to the largest contiguous empire in the known history of mankind.