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Amazon — like SpaceX — is the latest company to claim the U.S. labor board is unconstitutional, after receiving numerous labor complaints from employees::Amazon has accused the National Labor Relations Board of being unconstitutional in a new legal filing, according to a report from The New York Times.

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's sickening how everything is suddenly "unconstitutional" since the supreme court turned republican.

It's silly how everything has to be according to a 200+ year old document, and how the interpretation of that document is arbitrarily changing at the whim of certain political influences.

The US labor board has existed for 100+ years, and now it's supposedly unconstitutional? Shut up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Sounds like religious texts. And just like those, conservatives love to dig out whatever is most convenient for them (and ignore the rest).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A 200+ year old document which was designed and written deliberately to ensure that no one amassed too much power, and is now complicating individuals amassing too much power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

that is not what it was designed to do, I don't know exactly where that little truism started, but that is bullcrap.

it started as a way for a privileged, wealthy minority to make decisions on how to run a nation, and it still is doing that to this day. Separation of powers was nothing new when the founding fathers axed the articles of confederation and replaced it with the constitution.

then again, if you think the US labor board is "individuals amassing too much power" what do you call the significantly smaller group like the speaker of the house/senate, a position the republicans have used for years to act as a veto stronger than the president by just not bringing up legislation?

[–] [email protected] 112 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Amazon and SpaceX are unconstitutional.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey buddy, they're people just like you and me.

Unless you're a bot. And unless I'm a bot. Then those two companies are the only real people. Like embryos. Companies and freezer embryos. Those are the true Americans we need to protect

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I really hope you're being sarcastic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

You can always go sovereign citizen and claim paying the bill for Amazon is unconstitutional.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Why we still haven’t burned down the establishment til now is still a mystery to me ✌️

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bread and circuses / panem et circenses. The Romans knew.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But they're not even free. The Romans gave the bread and cicuses for free.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

How stupid of the Romans then, right? Even that can be monetized.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Cause you are too weak. Machine guns work well against such moves.

(Honest mood today)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Amazon claims the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) is “unconstitutional” in a new legal document filed on Thursday, according to a report from The New York Times.

The e-commerce giant joins the Elon Musk-owned SpaceX in making similar accusations after facing numerous labor complaints from employees.

The company also claims the NLRB’s hearings “can seek legal remedies beyond what’s allowed without a trial by jury” in violation of the Constitution.

Like other government agencies and regulators, the NLRB uses administrative law to carry out investigations and make decisions.

Amazon didn’t immediately respond to The Verge’s request for comment or a copy of the complaint.

Amazon’s arguments are similar to the claims SpaceX made in a lawsuit filed against the NLRB earlier this year.


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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Join a union and Boycott these companies. Or stop complaining.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

This take brought to you by Amazon!

Seriously this is such a corporate take, demanding that everyone stop complaining unless they do things that may it may not be possible for them to do. Not everyone works in a unionizeable job, and not everyone can boycott Amazon (Most of their profits are from AWS, which runs the majority of sites and services you use. Stop using them, including lemmy instances hosted on AWS? You start!)

Possible that nation wide labor rights may be eroded away, EVERYONE has a right to complain about that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The AWS side of their business isn't the side everyone complains about with unethical behavior, it's possible to be mad at one side of a company and to boycott it without doing the same to the other side of the company. It really helps that AWS has actual competitors in a way that Amazon shopping doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s not the same as with warehouse workers, but Amazon does have a reputation of being a brutal employer for software engineers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Good to know. Sad to say I don't have much choice there unlike how I can just avoid shopping through Amazon, since it's not up to me who hosts websites.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Oh, you are discontented with Capitalism, are you? Curious that you use an iPhone while claiming to dislike capitalism.

Similar logic lmao

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How would me joining a union help with the Amazon problem? My pay and benefits (and my coworkers' pay and benefits, to the extent of my knowledge) are very good, so we don't currently need a union. My job is completely unrelated to Amazon, and my employer isn't a customer of Amazon or its competitors.

I'm not going to stop complaining about Amazon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

you can support the Amazon workers unions in a multitude of different way, depending on the exact structure, anything from donating a few bucks to the strike fund too righting a letter to your local representatives, or just informing those around yourself to why unions aren't literally the devil

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Question:

Which one of the following identifies a flaw in the reasoning in the comment?

A) Assumes that the only valid forms of expressing discontent with a company are through union membership or boycotts.

B) Overlooks the possibility that some individuals may not have the practical option of joining a union or effectively boycotting these companies.

C) Presumes that complaints are only valid if the complainer is taking direct action against the companies in question.

D) Fails to consider that boycotting companies or joining a union might have unintended negative consequences.

E) Implies a false dilemma by suggesting there are only two alternatives to address grievances with these companies.