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[–] [email protected] 107 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Nice try CloudFlare,
but I'm still picking Quad9 any day over you:

https://www.quad9.net/

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow, that might be the shortest-representation IPv6 DNS server I've seen to date: 2620:fe::9

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

2a09:: 2a11:: and 2409:: are the shortest.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I found them via IP address, so I don't know anything about the company beyond that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That’s networks, not hosts

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Nah, apparently it's completely valid to end IPv6 addresses with a 0. And I haven't done much research, but it seems IPv6 really doesn't have network addresses the way IPv4 does.

Also you can ping them and they reply.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You can have .0 as a host. 10.0.1.0/23 is a perfectly valid host, same with 10.0.0.255/23

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

why do you like it better?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't trust CloudFlare with my data,
assume they will sell it since it's a for-profit company.

Meanwhile Quad9 touts about not logging IPs and being GDPR compliant.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

is quad9 a nonprofit?

what makes them trustworthy wih that claim?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

I Googled them because I was interested. The answer is yes.

Sony failed to sue them, hoping to force them to block copyright breach adjacent DNS resolvers. That feels like a badge of honour.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

9.9.9.9 has twice the latency for me. Why pick quad9 over, say, 1.1.1.2?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Twice the latency for DNS results? Care to give concrete examples? DNS is usually very fast. Twice as long as very fast is still pretty quick, in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm always on VPN, so latencies add up.

dig +stats @1.1.1.1 www.google.com | grep '[\d]+ msec'

gives me 10-20ms using a nearby vpn server

dig +stats @9.9.9.9 www.google.com | grep '[\d]+ msec'

gets me 30-50 ms, and not rarely >100ms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Plus DNS caching... I do DOT or DOH (forget which, setup years ago) from my router's local DNS server without any noticeable latency.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

kinda hate how they don't provide dns with dnssec but no malware blocking (i prefer my dns to always just resolve stuff regardless if it's "malware" or not)
also their default dns does has ECS disabled (they have an alternative one tho)

[–] [email protected] 87 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

you are the only cloudfare DNS for me?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

there's no place like 127.0.0.1

"there's no place like localhost?"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's so out of touch, at least put "192.168.1.*" or something. It's very individualistic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

You're one out of 254 usable hosts.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For the modern IP (aka IPv6) folks: 2606:4700:4700::1111

Other brands of IPv6 DNS servers are available.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, just rolls off the tongue

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is quite the mouthful, but I really hope people aren't -- whether v4 or v6 -- having to manually type in DNS servers regularly. Whatever your choice of DNS server, it should be a set-it-and-forget-it affair, so the one-off lookup time becomes negligible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

DoT and DoH can be entered as URLs, this is the Quad9 example but there are several others:
tls://dns.quad9.net

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You still need IP DNS to bootstrap, but you can use your ISP's DNS for that

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"You are the number 1111 (base 255) for me." isn't even a backhanded compliment any more, or is it?

I mean, that puts the person in question behind 16.843.008 more favourable people (unless I've miscalculated).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

They're polyamorous so one of the five.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I'm keeping my Mullvad DNS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fun fact: if you listen really carefully, you'll hear "Party in the CIA" playing from the thing