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Hello, currently I use qksms but its very problematic and lacks basic fetures. One of those issues being you cant send videos, and sending and recieving media is pixalated or blurry because of a commpresion issue. I've already tried adjusting the compresion options in settings to find out it doesn't work.

What messangers do you guys/gals recommend?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There's no privacy with SMS. It's sent in the clear. There's no changing this with an app.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I understand thats its sent in plain text, I just want something that works and doesn't have trackers built in.

I already tried getting my family and friends to use signal, so that cant really be done because none of them want to use it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If they won't change to something better like SimpleX then you could use https://github.com/wrwrabbit/Partisan-SMS . It is a fork of qksms that adds privacy, it will do nothing for video quality or anything else though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is it maintained though? Last commit and release were 8 months ago.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

If it works...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But only if both ends use the same app.

Which I always thought was a smart path forward, just getting people to switch apps, even for SMS, isike puling teeth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, it is only a solution if all parties are using Partisan, which means switching apps.

As I understand it the use case for this app is during protests in Belarus where the government shuts down mobile internet but not SMS.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, qksms's handling of group messages is really klunky, too.

Deku SMS looks nice, but it doesn't understand group SNS at all. Neither does Connect You (it also doesn't have search-by-name for texts, and has trouble linking contacts to texts). Simple SMS is now verboten.

Despite warts, I'm stuck with qksms as well.

Edit Fossify Messages has been released on fdroid. It supports groups, looks nice, and is working for me so far!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The Simple Mobile Tools are being forked at Fossify.

Messages doesn't have a release yet, but keep an eye on it for now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I'm liking these forks! I didn't realize how much I hate the orange theme Simple uses; the change to green alone made the apps installable, for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Not to also mention that the dev for qksms hasn't fixed some issues from 2017.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Since SMS is already sent in the clear, I actually use Google Messages. For those who also have it, it upgrades the SMS to RCS with end-to-end encryption. Sure, it's nowhere near as good as Signal (which OP says these people won't use), but it's better than plain-text SMS.

How RCS chats keep your conversations secure

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Simple SMS, obtained from F-Droid, is probably the best universal option until the Fossify project adds the fork to their suite (assuming they do).

If you have the ability to toggle network access for your apps (GrapheneOS, etc.), Google Messages is a very solid SMS app that receives regular updates. I would normally only recommend FOSS apps, but many of those options are limited and/or dangerously outdated for SMS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i would recommend the use of SimpleSMS but install it on fdroid instead of the playstore, the simpletools collection was bought by a privacy-unfriendly company

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If I remeber correctly the simple suite has gone to shit and has been bought out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

fdroid blocked any new updates, i know it's not a good idea go use outdated apps but in that case simpletools suite dosn't require internet to be used

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Fossify apps are the spiritual successor (direct fork) of the old simples. Should be on fdroid, if sms isn't there yet keep an eye out I'm sure it will be.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Signal does sms but they may not be as privacy friendly as they claim. Although idk.