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I remember reading somewhere (probably my high school textbook) that one of the reasons people don't like wind power being built is they cause visual pollution.

In my opinion, I think it would be pretty cool to just look out my window and see a giant windmill there, the opposite of visual pollution.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They look better than pump jacks and oil derricks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let alone power plants billowing steam and smoke

And they don't damage the environment as much as a hydro dam

And nowhere as ugly as giant farms of solar

Honestly its probably the BEST looking power source

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Wind needs energy storage but it generates a ton of electricity 👍⚡

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Ah pump jacks are satisfying to watch too. And I mean derricks are temporary. But I've always liked windmills.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

Other power sources also cause visual pollution and I like windmills better than columns of smoke.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gray smoke is a worse type of visual pollution imo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah and blurry vision is pretty shit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Its fossil fuel lobby propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

I think they're pretty tbh. There's a huge stretch of them in a field I drive through sometimes, and at night I like to just stop for a second and watch 95% of them all flash their light on top in sync across an impressive distance.

And sometimes there's one or two flashing out of sync in a weird rhythm and I assume it's like an error code which I think is pretty interesting

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

I love seeing them on the horizon. I genuinely get excited to see them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

I think they're quite attractive

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

It causes visual pollution like a politician telling the truth too much.

It's a load of bullshit

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The strobe effect is a thing but it really doesn't impact a lot of people since you know windmills are usually not by apartment buildings. Being very kind to that point of view seeing things that are new can put you out of sorts.

Personally I think they look cool, that doesn't mean I can't see other POVs. Still, people will adapt when they get more common and frankly I am not into NIMBY anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah you obviously shouldn't build them even close to buildings for many reasons

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

They turn at 20 rpm, so a blade every second, hardly a strobe effect.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

It's a made up word for fossil-fuel execs.

I would anytime put up a wind turbine in my yard and enjoy the free energy then complain about how it looks like.

In fact I am planning to power my side building/garage, utility rooms, freezer box and yard lights (basically everything except my house) by wind power. Domestic wind turbines are super cool and you can even make one yourself or just get a smaller one with super easy installation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Better than normal pollution though or visual pollution from smoke and smog. It's a tradeoff and a good one in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think they look really cool. I can't get the rage about a friggin' giant electricity producing machine but they're fine with billboards everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Once The Man figures out that windmills would make good persistence-of-vision displays to play adverts on, I'm going to start burning them down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

They weren't there was a big campaign against them in the 60s. Which led to the Highway Beautification Act.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

They look better than smoke stacks

And in all honesty they remind me of like a leisurely creek or small waterfall in that they kinda just keep going on in a pleasant consistent kind of way ya know?

Basically what I'm saying is that they're pretty IMO

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This complaint about wind power has always come across as the kind of thing people say because they heard somebody else say it. imo, it's just stupid people who desperately want to have an opinion on the topic weighing in with the only piece of criticism they've overhead some Sky News host parrot at some point in the past, and because that host had authority on the matter in their minds, it gives them some kind of false confidence to then go forward and proclaim the visual pollution argument, as if it has any real basis in anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Like comic sans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Ehhhh I can see it. It's usually out in nature where people might want to just see nature... but I also usually see it in places where people aren't going sight seeing as much. It's fields. Which are nice. Those are nice to see. But it's not the thing people are seeing in the towns as much. But if they were, I don't see how it could really ruin the view of a neighborhood.

If it was something like in campgrounds, going out to the lake and it's just right there in front of the view of the mountains, right off to the side of hiking trails, I would hate it. But over all I don't see it as that huge of a deal. They tend to find the best places for it with causing the least amount of trouble for others.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

BS. I wanted to build one on my property, but here in Germany you need a permit if you wanna build a birds house (I'm not kidding, in some areas you do), I didn't get one, neighbors and shit, so I sold the house, we're moving to Denmark this year. No neighbors, no problems. Especially not German neighbors! As long as you have a Danebrog (Danish flag) on your property, you can build a lot. It's your property at last.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

They look pretty sweet and they generally aren't near populated areas

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I agree, always found them cool

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

A little bit, in the same way that any man made structure does. But they're quite peaceful to look at and compared to a nuclear or coal plant they're way better to look at.

I wouldn't like to see them in an area of outstanding beauty, but I'm cool with them anywhere else.

Slight nitpick: they're wind turbines, not windmills. Windmills are used to grind things down, like wheat into flour.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yes. Do does most things humans build. Certainly better than a power plant, shopping center, warehouse, or even many houses and office buildings.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yea they massively change the views in the local area. How ugly they are is probably the top complaint in the UK about them

As unlike a lot of the American commenters here saying we don’t have huge sprawling areas of nothing (Except Scottish highlands) just waiting to be filled with something. So for rural voters that live in the countryside for the views damaging/changing the views is unsurprisingly not that popular.

In 2015 because of lots of local opposition the government made it easier to object to wind farms in your areas but people have since said that those rules make it too easy to get planning permission rejected.

Recent polls seem to suggest people care less now though lack of increase in planning permissions for onshore wind seem to show that people like it more in theory than when the wind turbines will be built in their view.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

There is a beautiful lake close to where I live and if you are there in late evening you can see lights from the nearest wind farm blinking on the horizon. You can also see them on top of historical castle mounds my region is famous for which cheapens the experience of visiting them. I am all for renewable energy, but I understand the argument.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

No.

I'm not a coal industry propagandist, so the only opinion I have on wind turbines is to build more of the fucking things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I find them comforting in a reassuring, kinda awe inspiring way. Like, they're a visual sign of at least trying to address climate change, and there's something about having a giant, obviously artificial moving structure towering over the landscape that just gives me a sense of thrill and wonder that we are capable of building that. Those things are pretty massive if you get anywhere close to one, after all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Dude. They're so fucking cool. I wish I had a wind turbine in my backyard or something. A feat of engineering I tell you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Personally I like the look of windmills🤗

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I've never seen a wind turbine in person but I'd imagine no more than buildings and a lot less than most other power sources.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Like with anything, too much of it will look/taste/smell/sound bad.

Is that a reason in and of itself to not build wind power plants? No.

Personally I find wind power plants to look cool, a bit sci-fi and futuristic.

The argument that they are ugly is dumb, using a term like "visual pollution" is just a way to try and make a subjective oppinion sound like objective fact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I do think they're visual pollution and I don't like looking at them at all. That said, I do understand they are needed.

Just wish they'd find a way to stop birds from flying into them all the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I think it looks good, personally. Definitively less ugly than radio towers or pylons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No, I like the rhythmic visual quality. And on a conscious level they make me feel happy about clean electricity. I see windmills every single day and they do not get old for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Please define "visible pollution". I think you mean something like "ugly". So there's not really much of a discussion to have, because it is opinion. Of course some people feel that way.

But anyway, since you asked, I'd rather look at wind turbines than the smog around, let's say, Chicago or Los Angeles. But still that's opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Just try to look at the sky at night. Most places in the world you won't see the stars and yet no one complains too much about the visual pollution

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No, I like them. They bring some variety to landscapes. Many people here hate them though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, in the form of dead birds and bats.

Personally, I think wind turbines look cool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yes. I would not want a row of them in my way looking out over the wilderness that I live next to.

Looking out over the town or farmland I don't really care.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago
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