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Lmao i only knew they could stop supporting windows 7, people uae more windows 7 than windows 8
WTF is Windows 8.1?
Windows 8.1 was a major update that undid a lot of UI updates that people didn't like after 7
The un-fucking of Windows 8 release
It actually was a pretty useable OS most of the time
Yup, it was a very solid OS. It’s similar to how people remember XP, but what they really remember is XP Service Pack 2 which was the rock solid version.
The fix for the god awful TileOS decision.
I didn't conceptually hate the UI there was just so much room for improvement in implementation, if I recall correctly. I was only using a Windows machine for a short time during that era though.
That's why the Win10 start menu was better.
Tiles where it's appropiate and you could even nake the start full screen to top it of.
I'm on Linux :)
How's the experience, overall? I love the Steam Deck OS UI, so I'm thinking of building an AMD machine to run Chimera OS. I've heard nothing but problems when it comes to Windows 11.
I don't intend on playing competitive shooters, so idc about kernel anticheat keeping me out of Call of Duty or whatever.
I play exclusively on Linux. Almost every game I tried worked flawlessly. The very few that didn't, crashed on startup or a few minutes after. If you don't play AAA online games with anticheat then you should be good. As a rule of thumb, if it works on the Deck then it will work on any Linux distro.
Hell yeah! I've only experienced a few crashes on SD, and so far only on 2 emulated games that I'm okay with just not playing. I love that Valve started really investing in Linux support to make it possible for idiots like me to have somewhere to turn when Microsoft phones it in.
If you are using steam, there's protondb, where you can check how well game runs on linux
I appreciate the link, but I was more asking about the general experience than about game compatibility. I have a Steam Deck and am enjoying the game functionality, and I haven't hit too many snags in general PC usage on it yet in desktop mode (but I've barely used it for that). I'm really just asking around as a medium level Windows user about fully replacing my Windows laptop with a Chimera build to see what concessions I'll need to accept to have realistic expectations. I'm optimistic that frustrations will be mostly at the "dang it, oh well" level which I could either live with or find a layman level solution to kinda fix. So far, the only real concern I've found with my plan to build a modern Chimera steam machine is that the parts I want will cost me like $1500, and that's pretty hard to justify when I already have a Steam Deck, PS5, and a 2015 Windows 10 laptop. It's another expensive device that kinda just does what my current shit can already do, just all in one rig. If my laptop or PS5 died, I'd have a lot more reason to go for it.
Maybe the opinion of someone who switched recently would be more useful to you. I'm probably a little biased since I've been exclusively running linux for almost 20 years now
and a 2015 Windows 10 laptop
It's very easy to create a bootable USB stick to just try it out and, if you have enough hard disk to spare and your experience is fine, make it dual boot. This way you can assess if it works for you or not
If you already have a Steam Deck, then you are basically already familiar with Linux gaming. The software-side of things (Steam, Proton, etc) is going to be the same on desktop Linux.
If a game is compatible with the Deck, then it is also comaptible with desktop.
I've been a Linux gamer for about a decade now. I stick with single player games, so I generally don't have any issues, other than a minor tweak or DLL override I sometimes have to do, but that's no different than trying to run older games on Windows.
Only real issue would be installing mods, which is possible, but could require some extra work, such as manually setting DLL overrides. I've had trouble getting Reloaded II to work in Linux, for example, even though they claim they support Linux.
Translating into Linux terms, Steam has dropped support for:
This is the sole reason my gaming rig is now running on Ubuntu. I have never had Linux on my personal computer before but since I was forced to update the OS anyway, I thought might aswell give Linux a shot.
No big. Just run everything in compatibility mode and pick Windows 10 or 11.
/s
Pro tip, set it to Windows 12 so you don't have to worry for another decade or more
8 and 8.1 is a shame. Best versions if Windows we've ever had.
Your post would do well in "unpopular opinion".
To be fair, W8.1 wasn't that bad, you could even change the full screen start menu to a regular one. W10 was better though. W11 is... well they fixed the most glaring issues over the last year but I still can't get over the crippled start menu.
I was done with Windows when the spying and built in advertising. Poor design decisions are one thing, but untrustworthy untoward actions to the user are another. The last shred of trustworthiness Micro$oft had in my eyes was was being mostly straight in Windows instead of the shady and underhanded shit. We should've seen it coming when they started offering free upgrades
The "modern" (aka metro) interface was possibly good on a phone or tablet. Arguably even possibly on a touch screen laptop (not for me though). However it had no business being on a mouse driven computer or even worse a server operating system (Windows 2012).
Even the idea for "metro" apps was horrible. Full screen only. The whole reason the OS is called windows is because you could have two "windows" with two different applications on screen at a single time.
MS could have still included the metro interface if they still shipped the classic Start menu as an opt-in. Yes, its the first thing 90% of users would opt-in to, but at least it wouldn't have had Windows 8 be a rotten footnote in the history of computing.
but I still can’t get over the crippled start menu
You know you can set it back to “legacy”, right? I’ve been using Win11 since it was beta and when you swap the new default gui elements back to “legacy”, it’s much better than even win 10.
Are/were you a big fan of Vista and ME as well?
Vista wasn't actually a bad OS, it just got a bad reputation pretty fast because it had higher hardware requirements than XP and most people didn't have decent enough hardware for a smooth experience. That in combination with the new UAC feature that most people thought was annoying drove people away pretty fast, although the OS itself wasn't bad - in fact, it's pretty similar to Windows 7.
Yeah, I've used windows from prior to 3 (when it was more of a shell to navigate DOS apps) to 3.11, 95, 98, 98 SE, ME, XP, XP SP2, Vista, 7, 8, and 10 (and probably NT via school). The only ones I'd describe as awful are the < 3 version (mostly because I was already using 95 at the time), 95 (unstable mess), ME (even more unstable mess), and 8 (UI screamed "we need to make our OS more appealing for the tablet market"). Vista might be the one I spent the most time on, now that I think of it.
LOL wasn't ME sorry of a bolt on to 98? IIRC that was the most unstable version of Windows I had ever used. It actually forced me to explore Linux as a desktop seriously for the first time (and shit was jacked in 98-00). I seriously used NT4 as a desktop because it was the most stable version of Windows I could find at the time. Hard time playing games though.
I wish I was old enough to have access to install NT on the family compute at the time. My aunt and uncle had ME and it was bad enough that i knew to keep it off my family's machine. Instead I stuck with 98 SE until XP and it gave me an excuse to build a new machine at the same time.
It was basically supposed to be one last short-lived DOS based Windows version before Windows switched to an NT base with XP, and in that sense it served its purpose. But although it was a separate product, it was basically '98 second edition in a box. It certainly worked to push people towards jumping to XP a year later, lol. XP is still the best version of Windows MS ever made, IMO. Heard good things about 7, but I was already daily driving Linux by the time 7 was released after Vista bricked itself.
I remember using 2k for a long time, after the laughably unstable previews where mice would go crazy. I don't remember exactly what the tool was called, but I was an MCSE back then and had the big binder of MS discs, so I would build my own windows ISOs with a bunch of the built in drivers stripped out and slip stream other packages like Firefox in. Would end up with core installs of only a few hundred MBs. Did the same with XP when it came out, but I started daily driving Ubuntu around 2004 and I left Windows behind for the most part with the exception of work.
I'm sure battery life is still better with Windows, but it's not enough to make me want to go back to it, I'd probably pick up a Mac before that happens.
Worst of both worlds.
Win10 beats it by a mile.
Only way to make the win better would be more privacy.
I was helping my grandma with her old laptop that had Windows 8 and let me tell you, I only wanted to punch the screen 4 times!
Ow.. and Windows 11 also have stronger hardware requirements, making your laptop not usable in the future if Windows 10 is also deprecated. Causing more and more e-waste ;( just because of software from Microsoft.
Steam would be smart to package their steam deck OS as a dual boot installer for PCs. Boot right into steam when you want to play games.
They're eventually going to release SteamOS onto desktop platforms, but for now you can just install Linux.
SteamOS has so many deck and handheld specific features that it's not really a good OS for desktop hardware. HoloISO is something you can install, though, as long as you don't have a Nvidia card, which is just SteamOS packaged in a way that let's it run on other hardware
SteamOS has a normal linux desktop, its only in deck mode where everything is deck specific
Yeah, it's just Arch with KDE plasma
Nobara Project is another good Fedora based build for those wanting to try Linux that will work relatively smoothly for gaming.
Out of curiosity (I no longer run win 7 at all so can't check), does this mean steam will give an error if you try to run it on win 7 and will refuse to run? Or is this just valve saying they are no longer committed to releasing any updates for win 7? Or a combination of the two where they aren't deliberately making it incompatible, but they also aren't deliberately making it compatible so some patch is expected to break it entirely, maybe even today?
Microsoft doesn't even support Windows 7 or 8 anymore, so hardly a surprise. Affected customers can switch to either Windows 10/11 or Linux.
When no longer supporting Ubuntu 16.04: No big deal, just update, duh...
When no longer supporting Windows 7/8: How dare you!
Gotta wonder how that affects older games that haven't been updated since....
