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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's true that it's not always about the money, but it's probably never about a ping pong table

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, hypothetical speaking, if there were two completely absolutely identical jobs, but the one had a ping pong table. I might choose the one without and ask them to get a Foosball table, since I'm no good at ping pong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It also depends on whether it's about a pingpong table in the office, or whether I get one for at home and we're talking a fully remote job.

Getting a free pingpong table isn't a bad bonus! I'd prefer a decent crokinole board though, tbh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shut up and sit down has a video where they rave about it. It's a dexterity game that uses a large board and sliding pieces.

It seems simplistic, but it is genuinely amazing to paly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It's a bad bonus if you don't have space for a ping pong table. Speaking from experience, I got a free ping pong table for Christmas once...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There is a bit of truth here. Toxic culture and out of touch management will make people walk as well.

Thing is, there might just be a wad of cash big enough to make me put up with that against my health interests.

Fuck ping pong tables though. No one left a company because they didn't have enough fucking table sports. If you think they are then you are the problem. Exit interview your own fucking arse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"Man, my job pays horribly and the benefits barely cover anything, but they have a ping-pong table so it's honestly a tough call."

I struggle to understand how someone could seriously write something like that question without a lack of self-awareness so dire that a walk to the kitchen would come with a near-death experience. It just can't be real.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is what I came to say. Good management will make people stay for a long time with less pay.

But obviously HR doesn't get that lmao.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the best bosses I ever had once told me that people will stay for the culture but leave for money. His philosophy was to try and ensure that money was not a factor in people's decision, then build as good a culture as he could.

And to be clear, by making money not a factor, I mean he paid well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I had a meeting years ago with my company's CTO about my salary. He kicked off the meeting by saying "you care a lot more about what you make than I do" which prompted me to ask for 50% more than I had been planning to ask for. He agreed to it without argument. TBF he was a coke addict married to the daughter of the company's owner and within six months he'd been divorced and fired, but I got to keep my salary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Phillip. Of course, we knew him better by the name his eventually ex-wife gave him on Facebook: "Ol' Three Inches Two Minutes".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

That was beautifully put.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As a professional in this field, top reasons would be...

  • Dissatisfaction with pay
  • Limited/No career progression
  • Dissatisfaction with environment/culture
  • Dissatisfaction with management
  • Poor work-life balance
  • Poor job design/expectations of role
  • Poor taining quality/knowledge management
  • Inadequate tools/systems

Edit: I should also point out we have about half a dozen ping-pong tables scattered around my work and our turnover figures were bang on average for annual benchmarking against the sector. I consider the average too high, though, and will be targeting better retention over this year. We'll need at least double the amount of ping-pong tables.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't see pizza party or ping pong table on that list so you're obviously not a professional.

A real professional knows employees want pizza parties instead of higher pay and they want more responsibilities with the same pay!

:P

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A ping pong table? What for? So HR can punish you when you use it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

seriously,who has time to use a ping pong table at work? It's like a decoration to remind you you're not having fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is so true, and I don't even have a pingpong table at work

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I thought this was chatgpt for a second because I didn't want to believe anyone but ai could be this tone deaf. then I remembered humans and got depressed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How many of these companies think employees are going to say it's about the money during an exit interview? Usually if you agree to an exit interview it's to be diplomatic and not burn your bridges. You're not going to tell the truth, you're going to say what they want to hear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's only been two reasons for me to quit a job: shitty pay and shitty people in charge.

Sounds like this company has both.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Questions like these make me wonder if large capitalists actually live in an alternate universe but through some time and space shenanigans they are still here. There's just no way they can make this type of shit up (assuming it's a real question) without being delusional or sadistic.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

You gotta have hr (the worker who defends the bosses interests) on your side if you wanna drop $300 on a ping pong table rather than raises.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This reminds me of the Simpson episode where they are negotiating a new contract. It’s the same as the old one expect the they replace the dental plan with a keg of beer.

Season 4 Episode 17 “Last Exit to Springfield” .

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Lisa needs braces