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Swedish labour union to stop collecting Tesla waste::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago

Tesla, which has revolutionised the electric car market, says its Swedish employees have as good or better terms than those the union is demanding.

Here's the thing: a collective agreement in Sweden is about the minimums. There is NO upper limit in the agreement. If Musk wants to give the employees 300 days of vacation and 10000 dollars a month, no union in the world would say no to that....

But we all know the reason for Tesla not wanting to sign an agreement is not about them wanting the employees having better terms....

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if any Swedish unions want to go international...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The thing about Swedish unions is that they only bare their teeth when someone (invariably an arrogant foreigner who thinks they know better) breaks the rules. When companies act within the letter of the law (like Spotify and Klarna doing layoffs), the unions are basically the meek doge from the meme. A company that plays by the rules (which are better than in US right-to-work states though still allow plenty of leeway for cutting your workforce) will have no trouble, other than some predictable expenses.

Also, because of this, Swedish-style unions only work in a consensus-based system (which Sweden has had since the 1930s), rather than an adversarial system like the US or UK.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

The thing about Swedish unions is that they only bare their teeth when someone ... breaks the rules

Are Swedish unions also involved in collective bargaining (both in terms of remuneration and working conditions)?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are there any international unions? Like cross pond unions and such?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

yeah, theres the IWW(map of all branches of the IWW) for example, however they are not as big outside of america and britain.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Goddamn I love these stories.