I tell you hwat... tolerance is a social contract, not a moral imperative.
this post was submitted on 13 Dec 2023
232 points (84.7% liked)
Memes
45550 readers
1605 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
I want to reply something clever so that people actually read your comment and stop downvoting it but I couldn’t think of anything
Not saying it's anyone's job to do this, but bullying transphobes doesn't deradicalize them.
Accepting them sure fucking doesn't either
This is part of the problem of our current political climate. I don't know how you can constitute 'not bullying' as 'accepting them', but the complete lack of nuance in every conversation is what drives radicalization.
You can't 'bully' transphobes into being an ally. That's not how people work.
I get it. Transphobes are pieces of shit with the most punchable faces. But when you find yourself staring down into one, you need to ask yourself if you are going say what feels good and right to you, or what will make them just a little less transphobic to the next trans person they meet.
Deradicalization doesn't happen overnight. It may take transphobes a hundred, ten, or even just one trans person to show them undeserved kindness before they realize they were wrong.
I'm not saying it's anyone's job to do this. I'm saying that sometimes, maybe a trans person or an ally may be having a good day and find it in themselves to deal with transphobic bullshit just to show transphobes that they are the better person. If they do, I'm saying that we shouldn't ruin all the progress and emotional labor they've invested in by bullying the transphobe.
So, passively ostracise them. Duh.
That only works if they don't have the Internet to fall back on. Once someone loses their support group they tend to glom on to whatever will have them, and if only bad people will have you you will become a worse person.
In one I'm sure very rare instance, I was able to get my dad to understand why the things he had said were hurtful. Though I guess his type might be less radicalized and more just plain ignorant. Doesn't excuse transphobia of course but sometimes, maybe once in a blue moon, education does the trick.
Tho a bit extreme, killing them would deradicalize them /s
The /s is really unnecessary here
In my experience with regular everyday xenophobes, if you simply say that the only thing that is important to you is that somebody is a good person and all else doesn't matter, almost everyone will agree.
Fighting is usually counter-prodactive, most people aren't crazy, they just might be focused on unimportant things. Simply calm people down and bring focus on important issues, such as worker rights, corruption, self-organizing. Don't waste your time debating who should be allowed to participate in which sport competition.
I've gotten a reply of "You can't be a good person if God thinks you're an abomination!" before...
That was the end of the conversation, and I'm pretty sure she thinks she "won".
Man now i have to bully trans people to keep the universe in perfect balance, as all things should be