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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org/post/494473

Compared against the predominant incumbent social media platforms, the fediverse is very small.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

For the biggest ones: How many of those active users are bots, advertisers, and scammers? I'd guess about half on Facebook.

Also, is it considered "active" if you have a dormant account but have the app installed on your phone and it still watches what you're doing? What if you only use it to communicate with family because it's the only internet they understand?

Further, what about duplicate accounts or "secretive" secondary accounts so you can click on the depraved stuff you like without that showing in your public feed?

I feel like the real numbers for the big ones are massively inflated by issues like these.

The Fediverse is small enough to as of yet not be affected. Once it gets large enough, it will have all of this, too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

For sure.

with respect to bots, as of this time I don't think it's a problem that can be fully solved, although I do think over a long enough timeline the fediverse is probably the best suited to handle that problem.

I wanted to see a visualization of the relative size comparison, so I used the data that was available on Wikipedia, but this data is approximate at best.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Haha, now show us a map of the size of different stars compared to Sol (ours, in the local solar system).

Sometimes the small stars and communites are the most important. ;)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I'm surprised Snapchat is that popular. It's not something I hear about too much anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Damn, if only Spez didn't have fucked up Reddit. I even wanted to invest in that IPO, but now I'm not going to.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like to imagine a little escape pod coming out of the Reddit bubble and drifting in to the Lemmy dot representing my migration.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Seriously, who on earth uses facebook? Lol

The only website on this graphic that has some actual value (apart from the fediverse of course) is youtube.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Look we are on the map!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There's some merit to whether those daily active accounts are people, and the quality of the folks engaged as those accounts.

Twitter has more users, and a lot of static too, like people posting pictures of their paninis. I'm also sure there's a large percentage of automated/bot accounts on Twitter; they're active, but not posting anything you'll care about. Same goes for Facebook and Reddit.... There's more but I'll stop there. I'm sure you all get the picture.

Fact is, you can have 5 billion daily active user accounts, and still have very little content anyone cares about. A nontrivial number of posts are news updates either from media outlets or business accounts/companies that are simply a mass posted and shortened version of some PR message or something with a link to the information. Simply bringing the information to people where they are, no matter how few on Twitter or FB are actually reading what they post.

I feel like Lemmy has a lot of content because the majority of accounts are real people, so there's a better capability for discussion. It may be fewer overall people, by comparison, but it is, in many ways, more valuable and entertaining.

IDK, I'm just some guy.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You got to think at least 2/3 of Reddit is Bots right

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Happy to be part of the top 1% in this case.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I would say a good billion of Facebook users are either highly inactive, actually inactivated but Facebook is still counting them, scammers and porn bots, and dead people. Many people made an account in like 2011 and promptly forgot their password and never logged in again I'm sure. And lord knows Facebook isn't honest about anything.

I'm surprised Twitter is so comparatively small but it's also a weird site in that you literally talk into a void, at least Facebook you know your uncle is reading your post or whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I would have loved to see the parts that are not under the US-American influence. What are Asian, African or South Americans using?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Damn! I didn't know so many people still use Facebook. But it still doesn't sound right. I definitely don't feel like 37.5% of Earth's population uses Facebook.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Surprised to see LinkedIn's 930 million MAU! I might have heard someone mention it irl like 2 times my whole life? But maybe that's cuz I'm not in the job market yet.

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