Whenever someone calls something "socialist", ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it "Owningthelibism" or something.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that's not socialism. It's just not neoliberalism.
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What makes countries where the State has high power fail then?
The fuck
Not socialism.
Concentration of power with those "social services", making people pay higher taxes many times for unfair reasons. Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country. Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.
Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country.
China has tons of small and big businesses and it's still socialist.
Chinese companies are basically extensions of the government.
Most corperations are, in any country.
When you say "no room to make business." That's where I think the fundamental disagreement is rooted. Socialism is inherently built on the idea that what you are building in a capitalist system is exploiting labour. The people you bring in should have ownership of the company too in a socialist system, not the state. What you're describing is a communist dictatorship. State programs should be run by the state just as they are in most countries now. You certainly don't want companies running your government.
i love all kinds of socialist shit:
socialized medicine
socialized housing
socialized transportation
you know what kinda' socialism SUCKS though? Socialized risk, where corporations get to distribute their burdens but hoard all their profits.
THAT kind of socialism needs to fucking die.
I guess that book would be written by someone who calls everyone who they disagree with a "right-wing extremist".
Copium 🚬💨
There is such a thing as a "non-extremist" right-winger?
No, they're all violently discussing things, terribly defending your rights of saying your mind and defending more of those horrible things like stable families, no concentration of power and you having the control of your money instead of giving it all to the government in taxes. Meanwhile leftists are peacefully burning stuff, lovely degrading others' properties and making those magical explicit parades in public. No, only lefties are good. Right bad.
Oh look a libertarian
Pipe down, bud. Us grownups have a class war to fight.
Will people ever learn to not fight among themselves?
Yep, that or a fascist.
It’s true. Everything I don’t like is socialist. And referring to things that don’t work as socialist no matter the context is an excellent idea, I’ll be doing that from now on.
Why would you come into a thread and enthusiastically declare yourself a dickhead weirdo
Because I’m considering the audience. If a socialist is calling me a dickhead, then I’m probably right.
Again, why would you say something like that in this thread/community/instance?
I'm not requesting you to answer. I'm requesting you to reconsider your approach to this scenario
Just to piss people off and get them to waste their time basically
Ancaps when the
when the corporate conglomerate that owns their house demands they pay the property ~~tax~~ fee or else they go to private jail (it's not a state)
lol, an unironic ancap 
