Paid updates may as well be no updates. Give us privacy or cost.
Of course Linux is the only way
this post was submitted on 06 Dec 2023
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That's the day I get Linux, I guess.
I upgraded my Surface Pro 3's to Kubuntu just this week. Should have done it ages ago. They run faster and cooler now.
I've read there's an issue with the camera. How's it working out for you?
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I've been with Windows forever, since version 3. I'm old.
These past few months I've been trying Ubuntu, and it's fine for everyday use, browsing and file management. And, LibreOffice has been my office suite for years, so no problem there--I don't demand much from that.
But, graphics applications are barely there. Blender is fine. Inkscape is so-so, but I just discovered recently that it doesn't keep track of object rotation, so there is no simple way to set the rotation back to zero. Corel Draw gave up Linux support years ago, or that would be my go-to. I haven't tried LibreDraw yet, but I don't have much hope for it. Gimp is, eh.
I haven't tried playing FO4 or Starfield yet, though. I've just been switching back to Windows for that.
I don't mind using Terminal, it reminds me of MS-DOS days, but I don't see myself ever become proficient at it.
I won't be getting Windows 11, I've decided that. But I see that I'll likely need to give up a lot to make that stand.
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Windows 10 LTSC IoT + a certain mass grave script or whatever has got you covered until 2032.
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Why are people making a huge deal out of this? Win10 was released in 2015, and support ends in 2025. That's 10 years of support, I don't think this is unreasonable for a consumer product by any means.
As far as industry goes it's a bit short, but nothing catastrophic. There's plenty of xp machines still running just fine in many places. Lack of security updates is less crucial for most of these applications since they're often not required to be connected to internet.
I can't upgrade to Windows 11 (not that I'd want to considering all their enshittification), so they're leaving me with an unsecured OS. I survive on £160 a month so, no, I won't be paying for fucking security updates, instead I'll be switching to Linux and literally never considering using Windows again.
It's also not reasonable to expect updates forever. No matter what, support for software always stops at some point, and 10 years of support is pretty reasonable for consumer products. Not great, but also not terrible.
Normally sure, but maybe Microsoft shouldn't have tried saying windows 10 was the last windows version, to then release a new version that a lot of people can't even upgrade their current PCs to.
But consider that windows is a paid product, and its competition, linux, is both free and with much much longer support for old hardware, not to mention never having "sequels" in this way. I feel like windows doesn't have much excuse compared to this.
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It's because of the huge changes in minimum requirements of Windows 11 and Windows 10 being known as last version of Windows.
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Because it works perfectly fucking fine and people are using it and windows upgrades are more effort than not upgrading. That's really it.
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Because it's forced obsolescence by a convicted monopolist. Microsoft is effectively withholding security updates from computers built before 2018 or so with the arbitrary TPM requirement to install Win11. While I don't expect them to support everything forever, this is another step along their journey to make PCs like cellphones. Fixed support periods for no reason other than they want you buying new ones every x years. Next up will be widespread locked down bootloaders so you can't install Linux if you wanted to. Throw away the old and buy new. Mamma needs more quarterly revenue.
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That's 10 years of support
I work on an OS whose oldest in-service major release will finally go deprecated in its TWENTY-SEVENTH year of life.
We're not getting upset at a mere decade. 10 years is kinda cute.
I think people are posse dat the boeing-like "safety is an add-on" mentality that sells security patches like a "don't nose in" feature on a max8.
What OS?
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As far as industry goes it’s a bit short
Industry standard is 5-6 years of support. After that, you replace the PC anyway.
After that, you replace the PC anyway.
you really dont have to though
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Really depends on the industry I guess...we meet a lot of old XP and Win7 machines when visiting sites. Engineering stations rarely get updated unless the hardwares breaks, and a lot of software used to service the machines/production line from the engineering station often don't run on a never OS.
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