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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I own it. I just copied it. It's on my computer. Mine now

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Obviously that's not how ownership works.

EDIT: I'm surprised to be getting so many downvotes on this. Are people under the impression they own movies and music they download through torrents? Again, obviously there is a difference between "I have this digital content" and "I own this digital content"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop here, how does ownership actually impact the world in these cases? If I buy an nft image do I own the copyright to it? Do I get legal control over its use? What's the deal here? I see a lot of talk about ownership of a digital asset but I have thousands of digital images stored and I don't get why a blockchain is needed in the situation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Good question! In almost all cases, you ONLY own the NFT "wrapper" around the content

For example, if you own an NFT of a picture, you only own the NFT. You do not own the picture or any kind of rights to it

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you ever buy any movies from itunes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I did not no, I'm an ardent believer that proprietary file format is a bad form for media as it relies on a single entity to maintain its support.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes and another reason not to was it relied on a centralized database to prove ownership which Apple shut down.

A decentralized proof of purchase system provides the means for addressing this problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I get that part, the crypto stuff is just a fancy way of getting the paper receipt when I buy a movie at the store. Where I get lost is the product. From what I understand of the nft system, the code isn't in any way related to the image, it's just a receipt of purchase. Does buying this monkey image give the buyer copyright? Does it allow the buyer to distribute the image? Does it work like album art, where the band buys the image from an artist to use as album art making all future usages of that image the property of band? Or are these just a cool sticker that comes with the purchase of a unique string of code that people are using to speculate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

If you're questioning the value of digital receipts for monkey images I'm not disputing that. For me that's on par with beanie babies, postage stamps and other odd things people collect. I don't have to be excited about the current application to be excited about the fact that it works and what that means it could be used for in the future.

And of course, it would make sense that such a system wouldn't be used for something significantly important like property deeds or car registrations right away. NFTs are just another phase of demonstrating the capabilities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't own the NFT, but I own everything in the NFT that matters (the picture)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Again, that's obviously not how ownership works. You can download movies and music too. Doesn't mean you own them. If your argument is "it doesn't stop piracy" I'm not disagreeing with that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't say that. You genuinely don't understand what NFTs are or how any kind of "ownership" works with them. I don't blame you for your ignorance because that's how they sell them. I blame you for passionately defending your ignorance instead of learning the actual, objective truth

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Lol. I gave a counter argument that had nothing to do with NFTs that blew up your home brewed understanding of what digital ownership is and then you turn around and accuse me of ignorance?

Just because digital content is on your device doesn't mean you own it. That's the case for digital movies, music, books and so forth and has been long before NFTs were even a thing. This isn't up for debate. Until you acknowledge that there's no point in even having a conversation.