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Proton Pass now supports passkeys on all devices and plans: Beating Bitwarden to mobile devices (proton.me)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Passkeys are an easy and secure alternative to traditional passwords that can help prevent phishing attacks and make your online experience smoother and safer.

Unfortunately, Big Tech’s rollout of this technology prioritized using passkeys to lock people into their walled gardens over providing universal security for everyone (you have to use their platform, which often does not work across all platforms). And many password managers only support passkeys on specific platforms or provide them with paid plans, meaning you only get to reap passkeys’ security benefits if you can afford them.

They’ve reimagined passkeys, helping them reach their full potential as free, universal, and open-source tech. They have made online privacy and security accessible to everyone, regardless of what device you use or your ability to pay.

I'm still a paying customer of Bitwarden as Proton Pass was up to now still not doing everything, but this may make me re-evaluate using Proton Pass as I'm also a paying customer of Proton Pass. It certainly looks like Proton Pass is advancing at quite a pace, and Proton has already built up a good reputation for private e-mail and an excellent VPN client.

Proton is also the ONLY passkey provider that I've seen allowing you to store, share, and export passkeys just like you can with passwords!

See https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-passkeys

#technology #passkeys #security #ProtonPass #opensource

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I was considering Proton Unlimited and moving away from separate SimpleLogin and Bitwarden Premium to get my costs down. Has anyone moved from Bitwarden to Proton Pass? How was the experience?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I moved FROM Proton when I started looking into using unique addresses for everything via my own domain.

Fastmail + Bitwarden is way cheaper than Proton + SimpleLogin.

I found myself wondering why Proton, which I was already paying for, required an additional cost to implement masked email addresses via SimpleLogin when they own the damn thing.

Fastmail just has all of that baked in for cheaper. Then Bitwarden can create masked addresses from its interface via API when you create logins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I liked the look of Fastmail but I read that it doesn't work offline which seems to be a massive oversight. I also only really need basic mail but their 2GB limit felt way too low for a paid service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Hm. I guess I've never had the need for offline support so I didn't notice. Though IMAP works so other clients could take care of that.

Why did you compare the lowest tier with Proton Unlimited?

Proton Unlimited: $120/500GB/15 addresses. Add cost for SimpleLogin to manage masked addresses.
Fastmail Standard: $50/30GB/600 addresses. Masked addresses built in at no extra cost.

I don't know your storage requirements but for me, I never went over the 15GB free limit in Gmail after many years of use so I don't see 30GB ever being a problem.

Edit: After more looking, SimpleLogin may be included with Unlimited? Still.. Unlimited is expensive. This may have been what caused me to start looking elsewhere. I had been paying for Proton Mail Plus plan for a few years before I started looking at implementing masked email addresses and got frustrated with the price to use SimpleLogin features which weren't included in Plus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I don't have Unlimited. I pay for Mail Plus. I also pay for SimpleLogin and Bitwarden. By moving to Unlimited I get SimpleLogin included and could ditch Bitwarden.

I don't see a way to import from SimpleLogin with Fastmail so don't see it being an option anyway. I really don't want to manually create 350 aliases.

When I get on my PC I will look again at my options. Thanks for your input.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a counterpoint, I'm specifically keeping passwords with a separate service out of concern in having a single point of failure for the majority of my online persona. I do pay for proton unlimited but mostly for VPN, simple login, and email.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

This did cross my mind yeah. Also by putting all your eggs in one basket you kind of get trapped in that ecosystem. No different to Google / Apple.