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Why Bluesky Remains The Most Interesting Experiment In Social Media, By Far (www.techdirt.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The per user approach puts a cost on each and every user,

I've described how it doesn't.

Blocking the bigot with a throw away account after being exposed to the bigotry is pointless, because the account was going to be abandoned anyway, and you’ve already been exposed to the raw hate.

Which doesn't change anything as compared to instance-wide or community-wide moderation. And if you mean that you only want to see approved accounts, that can be done without instance-wide or community-wide moderation too just as well.

Instance level blocking resolves a lot of that.

Nothing fundamentally prevents you from ignoring a whole instance. Or, from what I described with subscribing to kill-lists, that instance being blocked as a whole in that kill-list.

You people have gotten so used to commercial bullshit that you don't realize how much can be done with simple things.

Your theory of what will work just doesn’t cut it for many vulnerable folk, and it’s not going to start cutting it just because you want to debate the topic.

It obviously does, because what I've described works exactly the same for the user, except for them having a choice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nothing fundamentally prevents you from ignoring a whole instance.

The issue is that users aren't "instance based" in the same way they are on the fediverse. On the fediverse, instances are communities of like minded folk, so all of the bigots hang out in bigot friendly instances, which I simply defederate from. If they join non bigot friendly instances, they get removed

On Bluesky, bigots don't belong to a particular instance. They just pop up with throw away accounts and have to be dealt with, one by one.

You people have gotten so used to commercial bullshit that you don’t realize how much can be done with simple things.

I've been on the fediverse longer than you my friend. I don't use centralised social media of any type.

The issue isn't that I "don't realise", it's that what I want from a social media platform isn't something that Bluesky offers. You want different things to me. Arguing at me as if you can make me want the same things as you is a waste of both of our times.

Bluesky doesn't give me what I need, and it's ultimately that simple

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They just pop up with throw away accounts and have to be dealt with, one by one.

So a person to the kill-list of which you are subscribed does that, playing the role of a mod. There may be a few such people with their kill-lists, united by logical OR. You don't have to do anything.

It's just a better solution for what you claim to want.

Just say honestly that you want to ban some people in bunches and feel that it's your bunch doing it and not you alone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So a person to the kill-list of which you are subscribed does that, playing the role of a mod

Yep. After the troll has trolled.

It's reactive moderation, which leads to a shit experience for vulnerable people if that's how the majority of moderation needs are met.

Because fediverse accounts are instance based, and instances have their own rules and communities, bigots tend to cluster with other bigots, and defederating those instances means that proactive moderation ensures that most of the hate coming from bigots never needs to be moderated, because it never arrives in the first place.

Anyway, it seems from the rest of your post that you aren't interested in engaging genuinely, so that's that...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yep. After the troll has trolled.

No.

It’s reactive moderation, which leads to a shit experience for vulnerable people if that’s how the majority of moderation needs are met.

It can be proactive just as well. You'd subscribe to a whitelist instead of a blacklist. Simple.

Because fediverse accounts are instance based

This doesn't have any mandatory connection to fediverse. Humans build systems.

Anyway, it seems from the rest of your post that you aren’t interested in engaging genuinely, so that’s that…

So finally the only real argument a snowflake has.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

So finally the only real argument a snowflake has.

And a ban for you