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I would simply blow up the trolley (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Just an FYI, OP actually believes Russia's "WE'rE FigHTiNg NAzIs" story. Well, or at least they pretend to for plausible deniability or some shit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I assume you mean this one?

The situation in Ukraine is an inevitable escalation in the war that started in 2014 with the US-backed fascist coup in Ukraine that goes against the interests and wishes of Eastern Ukrainians

and the subsequent killings of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, like Donbas, DPR, and LPR, by the coup gov for resisting.

To be clear, I don't support the invasion per se. In fact, its goal of suppressing fascism in western Ukraine seems to have kinda backfired from this after all, with the Ukraine gov using this as an excuse to suppress the left.

But the point is, what else could've they done? The US had meticulously blocked off all other options over the years. Russia had already tried to join NATO multiple times from even before the USSR’s overthrow and have been denied (since it's an imperialist org whose entire purpose is to suppress socialism globally, and particularly supress Russia) and they already had the Minsk agreements which the US sidelined through the coup. Not doing something about it would lead to the continued killing of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine by the coup gov, and NATO getting even closer to Russia since the post-2014 US puppet gov doesn’t abide by the Minsk agreements.

Seems reasonable to me. Specially with the Amnesty International report in the replies to it.

Way to completely misrepresent their position lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Russia had already tried to join NATO multiple times

Russia has requested to join the defensive pact against Russia

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Pretending the actual goal of the invasion has ever been to suppress fascism

Pretending I said anything else

🤡

And FYI, fascism is an authoritarian, totalitarian form of government generally know for suppressing opposition through force, right? Sounds a lot like RUSSIA to me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

authoritarian, totalitarian form of government generally know for suppressing opposition through force

killings of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, like Donbas, DPR, and LPR, by the coup gov for resisting.

Ukraine gov using this as an excuse to suppress the left.

Hmm...