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I saw printed and video porn right around the time I hit puberty, decades ago, before there was internet in every home. And my parents didn't have a scrap of it in the house. You think you can stuff that cat back in the bag? You wanna know what actually messed me up though? All the adults in my life absolutely losing their minds at the thought that I might be having sexual thoughts as a young teen. The guilt, shame, and denial of information is what messes up kids, because if they never told us anything, and made us feel horrible about it, surely we'd never have sex before marriage! Be careful, that can backfire on you.
Your kids are gonna see naked people doing it. You need to come to terms with that inevitability, and become the kinds of parents they can feel comfortable asking questions. Of course, growth is hard, and way too many parents delude themselves into believing that bringing some poor kid into this world bestows them divine wisdom and ultimate authority over what's best for that kid, and never learning another damned thing again. It doesn't. Parenting is a responsibility and a journey, not a coronation. Growing up doesn't stop when you have kids. You cannot shield them from reality. It's your job to guide them through it; to raise them into adults, not to keep them children forever.
You certainly have no right, or even ability, to legislate the nature of reality for others until you feel safe. That deluded fantasy is far more poisonous to society than people having sex on camera. It simply does not matter if you're uncomfortable with an aspect of parenting. The world does not give a fuck. Nobody ever said parenting was comfortable. Accept what you cannot change, and help your kids become functional adults. You cannot imagine how much I wish my parents had.
So then you dont seem to think any action is good, you are okay with children seeing porn?
Children seeing porn is the lesser evil in a choice of that or authoritarianism. The police are not allowed to just come onto property and demand everyone there prove they have the right to be. Does that mean that lots, and lots, and lots, of people enter property when they aren't allowed? Yes, does this mean that sometimes people get away with serious crimes? Again, yes. However the downsides of the 4th amendment are lesser than having cops forcing everyone they don't know to prove their identity and that they aren't doing anything wrong.
The 1st amendment means that people will be exposed to things, considered speech for legal purposes, that are not good for them. This is less bad than the government getting ever more control over speech. In order to to have freedom you will have to accept that bad things will arise from it.
So if children are at a strip club the government should not intervene?
Kids have never been allowed in strip clubs. You're using a slippery slope argument.
Uh, not thats not a slippery slope argument... Its an argument about how if there are things happening then we should stop them, even if you think its authortarian. So if we were able stop children looking at naked people, then we should do that too.
Children already are not allowed in strip clubs, and never have been. You are employing a slippery slope argument.
Gotcha, you dont know what a slippery slope argument is, and can understand a basic argument. Have a great night!
And you don't have the courage to consider a viewpoint other than your own. Goodbye.
Looks like you didn't read or understand anything I said.
It doesn't matter whether any of us are okay with them seeing porn or not. They are going to see it. Do you think you can put that cat back in the bag? Do you think it matters whether your kids can come to you with questions WHEN, not if, they have questions about sex? The actions I think need to be taken are people like you growing up and learning how to actually parent.
You might as well ask whether we should be ok with them finding out about extinctions.
So since they will see it anyways, we shouldnt take action to try to prevent it?
Why do you think it needs to be prevented? Do you seriously still think it's possible to prevent? Do you think it matters whether your children can come to you about questions when they inevitably look at porn and have questions?
Because its unhealthy for children and adults. Are you okay with children seeing porn?
Why do you think it's unhealthy to look at porn?
You answer my question first.
I have answered your question several times. I don't care in the slightest whether you're unhappy with my answer. I don't think it matters whether we're okay with it or not. It's going to happen. There is no such thing as putting that cat back in the bag. I saw it when I was young, and it did me no harm. What did me harm was people like you.
Now you answer my questions.
You didnt answer my very direct question, so no I will not answer your question.
Coward.
You didn't like my answer, but that does not mean I didn't answer it. You only think I can answer your question with yes or no. If I say no, you'll ask me why we're arguing. If I say yes, you'll accuse me of being a sexual deviant. Either way, you'll refuse to answer mine, because you don't have the courage to even consider my questions inside your own head. But I don't care what your answer is. I just want to see you do the impossible, and think.