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good, now please remind me when and for what reason was Alan Turing killed?
now remind me what happened in Cuba in regards to LGBT over the past 50 years?
I stg some people are immune to dialectics
even if we take your position 100%, jailing LGBT people is not genocide in the slightest, your position just trivializes actual genocide (unless you mean Holodomor, which you should've mentioned, and which is absolutely not man-made and doesn't count as a genocide as such, even if you can criticize some of its surrounding policies)
you're probably one of the people who say "personality cult bad", yet you ascribe to Stalin the level of influence that could singlehandedly flip the modern Russian's outlook on one of the most polarizing topics in modern times 70 years after his death. Well, news flash, nobody has that kind of power. People act as "conductors" of objective historical forces, and Stalin was no exception, even the CIA said there was collective leadership in Stalin's time. Communism doesn't recognize "human rights" or any "universal" morals, so you have to scientifically analyze the LGBT movement to make a case for supporting it. Can you blame Stalin for not personally having done research into the gay question over 20 years before the word "gay" even appeared, during the WW2 and its preparatory phase? In order to answer a question, it must first be asked.
when people criticize Stalin in general, they criticize the objective forces he stood for - namely, the preservation of socialism by all means, in spite of countless wars. When Khruschev proclaimed destalinization, he also proclaimed "peaceful coexistence" with capitalist countries, he proclaimed the "state of the whole people" (as opposed to the dictatorship of the proletariat), and started the ball rolling towards the full restoration of capitalism and dissolution of the USSR. Of course, this too isn't a personal decision of Khruschev, but a manifestation of broader revisionism and opportunism in the party. This is the reason the Marxist-Leninist movement will continue defending Stalin's legacy.