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https://seattle.eater.com/2024/2/21/24079162/tony-delivers-seattle-delivery-app-fees-downtown

Tony Illes was working as an Uber Eats delivery person when an ordinance passed last year by the Seattle City Council came into effect in mid-January. The new rule required app companies to pay workers like Illes a minimum wage based on the miles they travel and the minutes they spend on the job. The apps say that this amounts to around $26 an hour, and both Uber Eats and DoorDash responded by adding $5 fees to every order (even when the customer is outside Seattle city limits) while calling for the law to be repealed. According to a recent DoorDash blog post, the ordinance has resulted in an “unprecedented drop in order volume,” a drop that Illes felt personally. He told Geekwire that “demand is dead” and told local TV station KIRO 7, “I didn’t get an order for like six hours and I was done.”

So Illes had an idea: Who needs these apps, anyway? He printed up signs with QR codes directing people to a bare-bones website with his phone number, promising that he would deliver food by bike in Uptown, South Lake Union, Belltown, and a chunk of the downtown core for $5 a pop from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. and 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. daily. All you had to do was order the food and send him the screenshot. He called himself “Tony Delivers.”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That doesn't address anything I said.

If Tony gets hit by a car while making deliveries, how is he going to afford the hospital bills in a for-profit healthcare system?

If Tony dies and has a family, how are they going to survive until they adjust to the loss of income when he doesn't have life insurance?

Will Tony ever be able to retire or will he have to be riding a bike, making deliveries when he's 80?

That's why this is not a good side of the so-called free market.

There is no good side.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If Tony gets hit by a car while making deliveries, how is he going to afford the hospital bills in a for-profit healthcare system?

We need universal healthcare but Doordash doesn't provide healthcare for drivers so he hasn't lost anything. Companies pay for healthcare from your paycheck. The executives aren't taking lower salaries to pay for everyone's healthcare.

when he doesn’t have life insurance?

Doordash doesn't provide life insurance for drivers nor do companies do it for free. Again it comes out of your paycheck even if it isn't listed as a line item.

Will Tony ever be able to retire or will he have to be riding a bike,

Doordash doesn't have a retirement plan. Nor do most companies. You put a part of your paycheck in a 401k. The only guaranteed retirement is working for the government. You cannot depend on private companies lasting long enough for your retirement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, I know Doordash doesn't have any of those things either, that was my point.

Tony is not beating the so-called Free Market system. He's still getting fucked by the system. He's just not getting fucked by Doordash as well.

You cannot depend on private companies lasting long enough for your retirement.

Sounds like a good argument for a government pension plan.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You could say the same things about anyone who is starting their own business

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not in countries with universal healthcare or welfare

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No argument, but we will probably never get there.

VBNMW!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh look, it's the guy who told me that I made up a nonexistent queer child to excuse Israel's genocide that I never excused.

Who I have apparently been making up for over a year. All the way back to Reddit.

Yeah, sorry, not going to let you bully me again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I hope this isn't a double post, my last post didn't show up:

Did you reply to the right thread? There's nothing about Israel. This is about a person cutting out a large corporation from profiting off his labor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No, we have a history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I replied to the person who has spent a lot of time bullying me that now wants to have a casual discussion about free market capitalism and I'm not going to put up with that shit after what happened.

I've also blocked them now because I forgot to do that, but someone like that who thinks I'll just move on from that bullshit and have a friendly discussion? No fucking way.