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[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The elephant in the room is that parental controls development is a total wasteland, and has been for years. There's no money in it. FAMAG is actively hostile to it and phone OEMs haven't got a dog in the race and already contend with razor-thin margins. It's one dimension of a broader political problem of digitization that smarter legislators and politicians have surely noticed by now, which is that unlike human beings, users increasingly don't have any rights or agency worth a damn, and are treated with contempt.

I like that a grassroots movement has remembered that parenting should be at the heart of children's technology access, but I fear such groups' 'useful idiot' value to authoritarian elements up to the same old tricks.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But also apps intended for kids have been complete failures. The only thing they succeeded in was making platforms where advertisers target children easily. Youtube kids feels like a nightmare of elsagate and shovelware, and it's scary parents are letting their kids use them without realizing just how bad they are.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

That might have been partially the intent, but you also don't see many platforms for kids or teens these days either. When's the last time that something like Club Penguin was around, rather than everyone having to share the same network/platform?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

True point.

My IT setup to get control of my daughter’s not-yet-rocketed-addiction is: screentime from Apple (that can be circumvented), seperated wifi for teens with on/off times (still they can use mobile network), blocked ip‘s for insta & tiktok at router level (still not all IPs in there), and a hacker-style tool called Firewalla to monitor and control their traffic with porn, youth filter-block ability (also in the router, but not sure how well this works at eg youtube)

For this setup you need some steps beyond standard IT knowhow. And still it’s only 95%. Some day they find how to get through the little holes.

Oh, this effort for 3-4 hrs screen time a day including podcasts and whatsapp.

Next step will be to separate devices. She wants a new phone for birthday. Then we put Spotify for the podcasts on the old phone and block everything else. The new phone for the rest with even more reduced screen time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

How old is she?