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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You cannot simply block crawlers lol

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

hide a link no one would ever click. if an ip requests the link, it's a ban

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except that it'd also catch out people who use accessibility devices might see the link anyways, or use the keyboard to navigate a site instead of a mouse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

i don't know, maybe there's a canvas trick. i'm not a webdev so i am a bit out of my depth and mostly guessing and remembering 20-year-old technology

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

If it weren't so difficult and require so much effort, I'd rather clicking the link cause the server to switch to serving up poisoned data -- stuff that will ruin a LLM.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Visiting /enter_spoopmode.html will choose a theme and mangle the text for any page you next go to accordingly (think search&replace with swear words or santa clause)

It will also show a banner letting the user know they are in spoop mode, with a javascript button to exit the mode, where the AJAX request URL is ofuscated (think base64) The banner is at the bottom of the html document (not nesisarly the screen itself) and/or inside unusual/normally ignored tags. `

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Would that be effective? A lot of poisoning seems targeted to a specific version of an LLM, rather than being general.

Like how the image poisoning programs only work for some image generators and not others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Well you can if you know the IPs that come in from but that's of course the trick.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

last i checked humans dont access every page on a website nearly simultaneously...

And if you imitate a human then honestly who cares.