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I'm not a conspiracy theory guy but I seen the post on 9/11 on no stupid questions and it seemed more fleshed out than I expected.

So what are conspiracy theories that turned out to be true?

And what are the most believable conspiracy theories out there?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (20 children)

Conspiracy theories I like = Time Cube, Birds Arent Real, Roswell Rods, Reptilian Shapeshifters

Conspiracy theories I hate = Qanon, Agenda 21, Plandemic, Elders of Zion

Conspiracy theories that seem to be very complex/fleshed out = Fake Moon Landing, Jet Fuel Doesn't Melt Steel Beams, Gangstalking

Conspiracy theories that turned out to be true = Tobacco company cover ups, US govt spying on people, various assassinations and political destabilization efforts eg assassination of Lumumba, carpet bombing of Laos, Operation Condor, weird shit like Israel facilitating the funding of Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Jet fuel doesn't have to liquefy steel beams, it has to heat them enough to warp them beyond the structural integrity needed to hold up a fucking skyscraper

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

The whole jet fuel can't melt steel beams theory also requires a flawed understanding of thermodynamics to work. A fire's fuel is just part of the equation needed for temperature output. A coal fire will naturally burn around 900c, but with the proper air flow behind it, you can increase it to 1200c.

The theory is also dependent on people assuming that jet fuel is the primary combustion material, instead of what it really was, the primary ignition source. It was the early 00's, a time before the age of digital storage, and that building had literally tons of paper in their storage rooms. Office fires are known to get very hot, there are plenty of pictures on the Internet of steel joists in an office building "melting" from just a regular old paper fire.

Finally, there is a difference between heat and temperature. Heat is the rate of which energy is transferred to material, temperature is how hot or cold something is. Meaning a large cooler fire may transfer more heat energy to a structure than a smaller hotter fire. It's the equivalence of throwing a bar of iron in a bonfire compared to heating one end of the iron bar with a torch.

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