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What is the best way for a society to address adolescent autonomous agency, responsibility, and consent? (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I recall many times growing up when I felt like my inalienable fundamental human rights were violated in unjust autocratic ways, mostly at school. There was also the time of being a year older than my partner but the potential of ridiculous arbitrary laws having major consequences.

I feel like the age of 18 as some kind of moral benchmark is ridiculous. I feel like it is just tied to the age of conscription. Basing sexual morality on the age when the state can abduct and murder without recourse is nonsense. Most of us likely exist in a duality where we might cringe at "underage" of any kind, but not think twice when a couple of teens are dating and in a physical consensual relationship that is respectful and private.

So from a distant future culture's perspective, like if Star Trek TNG existed in hard SciFi, and there is no need for our present arbitrary policy enforcement, what should be the basis of adolescent autonomous agency?

Maybe it is weening, cultural pressures, and education.
Maybe it is full independence and self sufficiency.

For the record, this is my favored idea as it pressures society to enable a balanced financial early life and opportunities. It also adjusts to account for real world maturity levels. IMO, it is either this or number 1 as these are derived from individual human life phases.

Maybe you think it should be something else?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They may not qualify in that moment so it's necessary to educate them until they can qualify. If you don't know how to drive, go back to taking driving lessons until you can pass the test.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is that when a social system fails to address alternatives, the test changes to accommodate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah I suppose that's what's happening with cops where they have to keep lowering standards otherwise they wouldn't have so many people becoming cops rather than raising the quality of education to make them better. Instead they just make it easier for shitty people to become cops.