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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Yea, I was right, you genuinely don't understand Marx nor what Marxists are talking about. If you did, you'd be making coherent points and not randomly attacking strawmen you've created.

  1. The collapse of Capitalism doesn't necessitate Socialist revolution. It's up to Socialists to try to push for that, but Capitalism collapsing doesn't necessitate Socialism's rise.

  2. There remains to be an increasing need for Socialism as exploitation rises, both in developed countries and the global south. Competition drives increased exploitation of Workers, and we observe this in increased disparity.

  3. Socialism is rising in popularity not just online, but in real life, if polls are to be believed.

  4. Nobody thinks Socialism would look like what you're describing, it's not going to be a bunch of dissonant communes. Worker councils running things and democratically deciding production without a Capitalist doesn't mean things take the form of hippie Communes.

  5. What problems come from Socialism and how does Capitalism solve them? You made this point without actually elaborating on it.

  6. The USSR, during its time, was a developing country. That's like comparing America to Brazil and saying quality of life is better in America. No shit, America is a developed country. I don't even think the USSR is a good example of what Socialists want, this point is just terrible.

  7. Correct, developed countries have better quality of life than developing countries. Can you tie this to mode of production, or is this just a non-sequitor?

  8. What makes regulations and closing loopholes better than restructuring society to be more democratic and remove rent-seeking?

  9. The woes of Capitalism include inherent structural flaws like the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall, rising disparity, and exploitation of Workers at the hands of Capitalists. Additionally, Capitalism is fundamentally anti-democratic.

That's what I mean, this is just a soyjack. You don't have any actual points, just a field of strawmen and no understanding of Marx or Marxism. You'd do well to read Marx like the meme suggests.