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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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Tech companies argued in comments on the website that the way their models ingested creative content was innovative and legal. The venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, which has several investments in A.I. start-ups, warned in its comments that any slowdown for A.I. companies in consuming content “would upset at least a decade’s worth of investment-backed expectations that were premised on the current understanding of the scope of copyright protection in this country.”

underneath the screenshot is the "Oh no! Anyway" meme, featuring two pictures of Jeremy Clarkson saying "Oh no!" and "Anyway"

screenshot (copied from this mastodon post) is of a paragraph of the NYT article "The Sleepy Copyright Office in the Middle of a High-Stakes Clash Over A.I."

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

We need copyright reform. Life of author plus 70 for everything is just nuts.

This is not an AI problem. This is a companies literally owning our culture problem.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

We do need copyright reform, but also fuck "AI." I couldn't care less about them infringing on proprietary works, but they're also infringing on copyleft works and for that they deserve to be shut the fuck down.

Either that, or all the output of their "AI" needs to be copyleft.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not just the output. One could construct that training your model on GPL content which would have it create GPL content means that the model itself is now also GPL.

It's why my company calls GPL parasitic, use it once and it's everywhere.

This is something I consider to be one of the main benefits of this license.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So if I read a copyleft text or code once, because I understood and learned from it any text I write in the future also has to be copyleft?

HOLY SHIT!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doctor here, I'm sorry to inform you that you have a case of parasitic copyleftiosis. Your brain is copyleft, your body is copyleft, and even your future children will be copyleft.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

GPL. Not even once!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yes, now gimme that brain of yours. My comment was GPL too.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago

Going one step deeper, at the source, it's oligarchy and companies owning the law and in consequence also its enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

If this is what it takes to get copyright reform, just granting tech companies unlimited power to hoover up whatever they want and put it in their models, it's not going to be the egalitarian sort of copyright reform that we need. Instead, we will just getting a carve out just for this, which is ridiculous.

There are small creators who do need at least some sort of copyright control, because ultimately people should be paid for the work they do. Artists who work on commission are the people in the direct firing line of generative AI, both in commissions and in their day jobs. This will harm them more than any particular company. I don't think models will suffer if they can only include works in the public domain, if the public domain starts in 2003, but that's not the kind of copyright protection that Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. want, and that's not what they're going to ask for.