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Didn’t they update Teams to a whole new platform recently and it turned out to just be a webpage rendered by edge?
That’s just the desktop client. They haven’t updated the mobile app and VDI versions and those were suffering problems too. It’s something on the backend.
Just azure being azure
Was it ever anything else? 4 years ago it was already a wrapped webapp.
This was last year, but they dropped electron for their in house chromium thing
https://petri.com/microsoft-teams-performance-boost-march/
So yeah, whatever this outage is has nothing to do with their webview stuff
I mean that’s not really any different from slack
Yes it is. Slack works.
Fair. Teams suck.
Oh yea. It's been out years now and still feels like alpha software imo. It wouldn't even be understandable if it was built as FOSS by 3 dudes.
The problem is that they combined three different pieces of software into one cheaply.
So it’s big, clunky and doesn’t often work.
Apparently they are trying to fix it, but we will see
Meanwhile, Skype* works well.
(*Not msComm/lync renamed Skype. We never mean that unless we say skype4biz or its codename Hot garbage)
Teams was electron app from the beginning, so basically a web page rendered in chromium
Really? Haven't had the chance to check it yet because IT doesn't let our machines do the switch to the new one, but I don't know how to feel about apps/programs doing that more and more...
I think the old one was only a "website". The new one does feel better and faster (except, it sometimes crashes while in a meeting (lol)) But don’t know if it is "real" app or just JavaScript
Edit: if you go to Task-Manager, you see, that it is like one app and multiple „MS edge WebView2“
Mine has crashed every day during meetings now and 3 times it took the audio driver with it so I had to do a full restart before being able to re join
😄my coworker had this as well just yesterday, I believe, he had to react using chat in the meeting, lol, such great software.
Yeah it’s a web app with some native tweaks for performance and local APIs
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/
The old one and the new one are both available as a web site and a desktop app.
Yea, but the desktop app is mostly just a webApp. You can imagine it like that: teams is a themed edge browser, where you can only load specific websites (like the tabs in your teams, all the office apps within teams and all the chats are each website, so to say.
Yes, and that's true of both the old and new versions. There are a few differences, but for the most part they're the same, so you'll generally see changes roll out simultaneously in the desktop and web versions.