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For the hate-cult members circle-jerking over imaginary arguments with “fan boys” here. Actual Apple users either completely agree with the criticism, or simply don’t even care.
Feel free to hate on Apple the company, but stop trying so hard to make this place a home for baseless toxicity.
Edit: And just to drive home how pathetic this is, here’s a link to an article posted elsewhere in the fediverse about Google being shady af. Go look through those comments for a single soul saying anything about “Google/Android fanboys”.
What is this gaslighting you're trying to pull here? You're really going to pretend that Apple fanboys don't exist and instead start criticising some sort of perceived toxicity from a "hate cult" against Apple? That's before you get into some bizarre Google strawman. The reality is that these Apple fanboys with values antithetical to software freedom exist, and want walled gardens everywhere.
What purpose would there be in gaslighting something like this out of nowhere? Genuine question.
If you want to see examples of baseless vitriol directed at apple users, just keep reading the rest of the replies to OP's post.
Sure, just like anywhere else. You can't point your finger exclusively at the apple camp for that.
Speaking of staw men...
Some apple users prefer apple's walled garden, sure, but they're not going around saying Google, Windows or Linux must be walled as well.
Most people, including myself, prefer their own version of reality. You are promoting a version of reality that I do not find tasteful at all. With conflicting realities, meaningful disagreement is impossible and the only thing I can do is question the narratives that oppose my own.
More generally, ego also plays a huge part in why people do this. Apple has a significant following that will defend its every decision. It's brand has become personal identity for a lot of people. To the extent where I've been seeing news articles over the past two years about teenagers being bullied for using Android. This also happens to be the reason why people point their finger at Apple; because Apple users are the main group with such a distinct identity.
If they actually hated it, I doubt they'd be on a platform that restricted side loading in the first place. This feels strongly of "no true scotsman" fallacy.
FWIW, I would prefer to use iOS, but instead use GrapheneOS (ungoogled android) specifically because I want sideloading.
I mean, I agree with your sentiment, but I don't think there have been actual "Google Fanboys" in like 10 years or so, whereas there are some real fans of Apple products and often they have good reasons to be a fan.
Apple has some shitty business practices sure, but they also produce the last consumer-level Certified UNIX machines you can easily get.
So I guess my point is Apple "fanboys" still exist because there's some valid things to be fans for in regards to Apple. (Their new in-house CPUs aren't too shabby either)
I can't think of a single thing that Google has done in ten years that has generated tech community enthusiasm or was interesting enough for anyone to fanboy over. No, they've mostly just killed all the products people liked during that time.
I mean fuck Google+ came out in 2011 and that was the beginning of the end of people giving a shit about Google.
So while I get what you're saying, I think the reality is that Google Fanboys simply stopped existing and Apple "fanboys" are probably less absurd than people make them out to be. The only Apple "fanboy" I know is a Linux Guru who uses Apple products to record music.
The point I’m going for is that I never see such levels of spite and toxicity directed at users of other platforms, be it Android, windows, Linux or whatever.
(Which is good, because that would be just as absurd as it is when directed at Apple users.)
Yeah, I'm not really sure where that vitriol comes from. I think it might be leftover nerd elitism from a time when Apple products were mostly used for art and media production (we used them heavily for Final Cut Pro and Photoshop when I worked in local television), and so a lot of tech nerds got their panties in a twist because art nerds were invading their space, but that's just a guess.
And also, that was like fifteen years ago? Let it go, if that's the reason.