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Bloomberg: Apple targets 2028 release date for its own electric vehicle::Project Titan, the Apple electric car project, has been underway since 2015. But the project has faced numerous delays and...

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Look, I dislike Apple's walled-garden as much as the next guy, but let's give credit where it's due. Apple has been phenomenal at supporting its older devices, much longer than most Android manufacturers. The iPhone 7 only recently stopped getting updates, and it was from 2016. The standard for Androids is still 2 years, so when it comes to long term device support, the point undeniably goes to Apple.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Apple has been phenomenal at supporting its older devices, much longer than most Android manufacturers.

Which is completely meaningless when you can't actually repair failed hardware.

The standard for Androids is still 2 years, so when it comes to long term device support, the point undeniably goes to Apple.

What "standard" are you referring to? Both Samsung and Google have committed to 7 years at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Both Samsung and Google have committed to 7 years at this point.

Only on certain models.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From my research it appears to be all models but if you have evidence to the contrary, please do share.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you have source that mention all Samsung models will be supported for 7 years? Everything I found so far seems to only mentioned their flagship devices and 4 years support for A, Note, Tab, etc models.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, I just don't have a source that states otherwise. The exact statement from the "Galaxy Unpacked" event states "You will be able to use Galaxy devices safely and reliably for longer, because we plan to support 7 years of security updates and 7 generations of OS upgrades, starting with the Galaxy S24 series".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I hope it's true because unlike google who only have a handful of pixel models, samsung actually has a lot of region-specific models that share the same model name but has different hardware depending on the region. Supporting all those permutation for 7 years seems too good to be true for me, especially for the low end ~$100 models, but one can only hope.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much every smaller Android manufacturer only gives two years of updates. Google and Samsung are the biggest two, and it's great that they're giving longer support, but if you want to try another manufacturer (Asus, for example), you're getting two years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Which is precisely why I do not and would not recommend buying anything that's not a Pixel (Samsung's come chock-full of unremovable bloatware).

My question concerned the use of your word "standard".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apple users are getting settlement checks starting this month because Apple lost its lawsuit over intentionally throttling previous model phones with their "updates"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's what moved me off the Apple ecosystem. Can't use any of my apps unless I update my phone, every update made my phone continually slower.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Indeed. As much as I love shitting on Apple, the lifespan of their phones is one of only two things that has made me ever consider an iPhone. They're great on that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

apple product

life span

I just got told today when going to the library to ask for an Apple device for Xcode to specifically request one of the brand new laptops because the full size Macs are outdated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I bought a 2014 Mac Mini for $60 a couple months ago. It still runs just fine, and literally yesterday it got a new security update. That's ten years of support.

People can make fun of Apple for myriad things, but not supporting their devices is not one of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

My fusion drive iMac was rendered unusable by an OS update that was optimized for SSD and put any hard drive Mac to a crawl.

I had to change to a SSD, which was very fun because I had to unglue the screen and glue it back when I was done.