this post was submitted on 06 Sep 2023
1371 points (98.3% liked)

Technology

59148 readers
2721 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Google enables advertisers a look into your browsing history...

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Interesting tidbit: I've been watching "the big bang theory" a lot these past few weeks on my own hosted jellyfin install.

I don't use google search anywhere, I don't type tbbt anywhere. Yet, on my Android phone I have this obligatory Google news thing when I swipe left (HATE that) and all of the sudden that thing got chock full of chatgpt written TBBT articles... I don't really go there (usually end up there by accident swiping left once too many) and I don't read those articles but it really obviously switched to TBBT articles when I switched to watching TBBT.

This really kinda freaks me out and makes me wonder WTF more google is monitoring. I use a Google Chromecast, I guess google monitors that?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That and your phone's microphone and other sensors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not using Google Assistant here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No they don't. Unless you talking to Google assistant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, google home assistant thingy still listens and saves things you talk about. My wife and I occasionally have conversations, and the next time she uses her android phone, it shows her ads for whatever it ismwenwere talking about. When this happens, her phone isn't in the room, though I'm sure that may also listen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The smart speakers are a privacy nightmare, but on your phone, random apps cannot access your microphone without your knowledge or control, excluding straight up malware. There's a million anecdotes like yours on social media and none of them have held up to rigorous testing.

The fact is, most people don't realize how much of their thoughts one way or another are reflected in their digital lives, nor how good google's algorithms are. And there's also things like the frequency illusion etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You can buy phones from NitroKey (the company that makes secure, open-source security keys) that have the microphone and sensors physically removed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i suggest block play services in your main profile and let it be enabled for some apps in your work profile. via shelter app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or disable/remove them. Don't even need root for that. There's always microg if an app really needs them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

thats an awesome idea! much thanks for the info!

personal insight preinstall (for ppl reading this):

  • it is always better to use fdroid apps whenever possible.

i had tried mcroG once upon a time(many years ago). it didnt work for me.
possible reasons:

  • project may have been less mature than it is today.
  • other. (see below)

installation:
https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Installation "Install GmsCore.apk" , "Install GsfProxy.apk"
"Please review the Prerequisites and Helpful Information before starting installation."

https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Prerequisites
"Your System needs to support signature spoofing, see Signature Spoofing" , "[You need a ROM that supports signature spoofing.]"

conclusion:
-need to follow the specific installation instructions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use GrapheneOS without Play Spyware services.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I still install all software? I need my banks software, for example. If I can't install that's then my phone is useless

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unlike other ROMs like CalyxOS, GrapheneOS ships the actual Google Play services and Google Services Framework, but they're sandboxed so they can't spy on you. Whether your banking app works, depends on the SafetyNet requirement it has. If it requires full integrity, it unfortunately won't work on any system that is not whitelisted by Google. If basic SafetyNet integrity is enough for the app, it will work on GrapheneOS. You can google (or duckduckgo) your banks name and "GrapheneOS", and you may find posts by other people who tried it out.

Edit regarding software in general: When you install Sandboxed Play Services, you also get the Play Store which you can use to install apps. You can also use the Aurora Store, an anonymous front-end for the Play Store. There is also F-Droid, which offers FOSS alternatives to most applications.

Edit 2: I found this post over on PrivSec which has a list of apps and details on whether they work

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which phone do you have? I've been able to disable that "swipe left to access Google" thing on every Google Pixel I've ever owned. Just long-press your home screen and go to home settings and disable it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

OnePlus 8T. One day they pushed an update that removed the option to disable it. Obviously they have a contract with Google so that they profit from this, and it sucks .

When I have some time I might reinstall some new OS on it that removes all that crap