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Why in the year 2024 and with all the knowledge humans have now do people still believe in religion? (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a very long post, to say "I have no proof..."

I'm not religious and you're constantly misrepresenting or simply reducing the reasons why people have faith. That way it's easier for you to attack them. That's what a strawman is.

I reiterate. If what I'm claiming their reasons are is wrong, give me the reasoning that they are using that I am missing. Stop telling me I'm wrong and show that I am wrong by providing a reason to believe in God that's not faith or the Bible says.

Religion is an alive feature of humanity and what was consensus in e.g. christian faith 400 years ago has been replaced within the church and the faith of the individual believers. Religion isn't about "proof of existence" anymore, since it stopped being about answering questions that have been answered by science in the meantime.

This is irrelevant to the discussion and also just your personal opinion.

Contemporary religion is about philosophy and ethics. Claiming that religion can't answer questions it's not trying to answer doesn't proove that religion is moot.

Yea, pretty sure the majority of religious people are going to disagree with you. Religious believers believe in a God and a supernatural realm. What you are saying is simply wrong for the majority of religious followers.

It's like someone asking why some people like coffee and you can't understand why people like coffee, because if you can't survive on coffee alone. The whole premise is outdated.

Horrific analogy. Coffee is real and we can both touch and taste it. Also, coffee doesn't command us to stone gays or see women as second class citizens. Just horrific analogy.

I guess you're thinking about american evangelical lunatics and substitute all of spirituality with them. Christianity (and radical islamism) is some weird, imperialist perversion of faith. Forcing other people to boin your religion, or else is not the only mode, spirituality is expressed in the world.

I'm not talking about any religion in particular. They all share the same tenants that I'm attacking here. Belief without good reason.

When you're speaking in such a condescending manner of religious people when you actually mean evangelical lunatics just makes you seem arrogant and keeps you from actually learning anything about your fellow human beings.

For some reason you feel that me speaking the truth and demanding evidence for religious belief is condescending. When you claim to have all the answers via your imaginary friend and you seek to impose your views on others, I'm going to call you out on it.

This will be my last reply unless your next reply actually provides evidence, as demanded at the beginning of this thread. Otherwise have a great day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That’s a very long post, to say “I have no proof…”

Yeah. I rejected your command and didnt aim to proof anything.

This is irrelevant to the discussion and also just your personal opinion.

Umm... No, it's neither? I was explaining how you're asking the wrong question which religion doesn't aim to answer.

by providing a reason to believe in God that’s not faith or the Bible says.

I can't. It's faith. Faith is the reason to believe in a god. Never claimed anything different.

What you are saying is simply wrong for the majority of religious followers.

You're just pulling stuff out of your ass that you can't possibly have any data to. I've had productive discussions with people who studied theology.

Horrific analogy. Coffee is real and we can both touch and taste it. Also, coffee doesn’t command us to stone gays or see women as second class citizens. Just horrific analogy.

Yeah, didn't think that you'd get it, tbh. I was trying to explain that you're making a cathegorical error by demanding proof of a god. Separate your domains of inquire, my dude.

I’m not talking about any religion in particular. They all share the same tenants that I’m attacking here. Belief without good reason.

Bullshit. You're dunking on abrahamic religions ("stone gays") and use these to extrapolate to any religion. You have no idea about paganism, buddhism, sikh, shintoism, etc.

For some reason you feel that me speaking the truth and demanding evidence for religious belief is condescending.

What is the "truth" you're supposedly speaking? That there is no scientific proof that something supernatural exists? Wow. What a well of wisdom you are. Did you know that you can be a secular buddhist?

When you claim to have all the answers via your imaginary friend and you seek to impose your views on others, I’m going to call you out on it.

You're confusing christianity (and maybe islam) with every other religion again. Judaism doesn't have missionaries. Neither do hundreds of other religions.

This will be my last reply unless your next reply actually provides evidence, as demanded at the beginning of this thread. Otherwise have a great day.

Don't threaten re with a good time.