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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Artists can still make money and copyright their stuff. You just can't use exclusively AI to create the images. Cleaning up an AI generated image count as artistic work. Color correct, add missing fingers, make the eyes point the same way, remove background monstrosities. It all adds up.

Unfortunately this also goes for Hollywood. They can generate the bulk of the work and have one guy do the editing and suddenly they own the edit.

The real losers in this are the people that generate images with no modifications and post it as is while pretending that they are doing art.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You are correct. Hollywood will simply change up a couple things and then use the assets.

However, I‘m still undecided about how I think about whether generating AI art should count as Human-generated or not. On one hand, people can spend hours if not days or week perfecting a prompt with different tools like ControlNet, different promptstyles and etc. On the other hand, somebody comes up to midjourney, asks for a picture of a dragon wearing a T-Shirt and immediately gets an image that looks pretty decent. It’s probably not exactly what they wanted, but close enough, right? AI gets you 90% there what you want, and the other 10% is the super-hard part that takes forever. Anyway, sorry for dumping my though process from this comment chain on here xD

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plenty of things that take weeks of work aren’t art.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Definitely. Ask anybody who finally evacuated the last thing they ate from Olive Garden!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry, I am firmly in the camp where that isn't art. The prompt writing can be a literary work but the result isn't a work of art. You set up the environment that allowed the image to exist but you didnt make the image.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But the treatment of photographs in the decision fits your description. The photographer sets up the environment that allowed the image to exist but it's the camera that makes the image. The judge held that was protectable because the image represents the human's mental conception of the scene. It's not a ridiculous stretch to consider AI to be merely a camera for the prompt-writer's mental conception. I am certain this argument has been or will be tried in court. The IP owner industry is far from done litigating this topic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I remember this artist who used a jet engine to throw paint onto a big canvas. Was the resulting artwork made by the jet engine, based on what you're saying?

I'm not confrontational. I just like the discussion. This whole topic is, well, fascinating.