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submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Much worse for who? Who does the police actually benefit today? and who is it harming? do you care about those people? The police are not even legally required to protect you, and don't in practice, why do you think they do anything to benefit society? Why are you so desperate to maintain the boot on your neck?

Thousands of people and organisations have answered your question in great depth over the years, all you have to do is be willing to set your obvious existing bias aside, and look.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_abolition_movement

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-manifesto-for-the-abolition-of-the-police

https://abolitionistfutures.com/latest-news/9m1jx98mayqvorjm7ij8x0zv9g5f85

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/rose-city-copwatch-alternatives-to-police

https://gal-dem.com/how-does-police-abolition-work/

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/may-day-collective-solidarity-defense-12-things-to-do-instead-of-calling-the-cops

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Much worse for who?

My point is: if police were completely abolished, conservatives and the far right would feel very unsafe and immediately form militias that enforce their values. That would be much worse for everyone who doesn't share their values, of course.

I get that in many countries, police is badly regulated and you might say that this wouldn't actually change much, but I'd rather seek more accountability for police, compared to a complete abolishion, leaving a power vaccum that'll be filled by right wing militias with zero accountability.

Divesting seems good to me though, much of the police is certainly overfunded (due to law and order populism) and does useless shit (like the war on drugs), while education, social workers and programs against poverty are severely underfunded. Changing this would surely help a lot with crime reduction and other issues.

Thanks for the links by the way, I will look more into them when I have more time to see if my concerns regarding abolishion are addressed.