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[–] [email protected] 163 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That's right, never trust a private company that might go public in the future.

That's why you should build your communities on Discord instead. 🀑

[–] [email protected] 136 points 11 months ago (7 children)

That shit is the most infuriating thing ever to me. It seems like so many technical discussions and communities are going to Discord now where that information is not indexed or preserved. How many issues have I had where the answer was sitting on a Discord server that will never appear in any general search result?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’ve tried to use discord before but it seems just kinda… awful. It’s essentially a single uninterrupted, general purpose comment chain about a singular topic. It’s a forum meet twitter but worse than either?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

Yea that's cause originally it was just meant to be gamer friends voice chatting and text chatting with each other. They build all the other features on top of what they had originally so it's terrible as a reddit/social media alternative.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Yeah. I've come to believe the problem isn't Discord itself but how people use it. But I totally get your point. So many niche communities. I had to make a Discord account and then someone just fucking answers "!faq" and a bot pastes the answer. Why was that not on their GitHub page? It is what it is.

A Discord server can be created in seconds and can easily have everything they need. I get why they turn to it but it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Discord is the same thing as technical slack threads, or IRC chat. People try and use it as a reddit replacement when it really truly is not.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

Forget reddit replacement, people try to use it as a wiki/documentation replacement.

Deranged behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I feel forum communities have themselves to blame for a lot of people not wanting to interact with their forums.

Essentially, there's a level of gatekeeping that existed where if you didn't ask questions the 'right way' or even ask the 'right questions', you would be flamed and potentially have your post deleted. Some of these people actually believe that if they can't answer a question, then it's the fault of the asker and not their own.

Why go through the effort if that's how the community is going to behave? Sometimes, it's more fruitful to say nothing than to tear someone down or give wrong information just so you can contribute something.

Discord is nice because of how informal it is, although it's also getting corrupted by the same autists who need to have everything 'just' their way. (referring to things like forcing people to start threads instead of an open room for questions.)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Since when as autism anything to do with this? I'm figuring out but can't find an answer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The worst part is that it is preserved, as long as the Discord channel still exists, but is functionally impossible to find. Because search engines can't index it from the outside, and Discord's search function is just a dumb literal string matcher.

And that won't stop all the regulars in the channel from jumping down your throat anyway because you asked a question that was answered 17,782,169 chat messages ago. Didn't you see it? It's right there. Nestled in between said regulars posting pictures of their cats, or showing off the latest computer peripheral they just bought, or kibitzing about the weather in whatever towns they live in. Interleaved between six separate conversations that were also going on at that time. I mean, duh!

"Just search!" I did, and all the results I got were you guys likewise jumping down the throats of the last 200 people who asked the question before me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought that Slack was what that use case is for. It's an acronym that stands for Searchable Log of All Communication and Knowledge. I didn't realize folks were using discord for productivity use cases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Tons. A special firmware I use for my 3D printer is supported through Discord. All questions and new firmware links are posted there. Even with Slack being "searchable", unless I am mistaken, it's not indexed by search engines, right? So when trying to figure something out I would need to search for webpages and then also search Slack right?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why discord? Everything on it will be lost without exception. Fuck discord.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago

It's why they put the clown face emoji at the end. Discord sucks so hard for finding information. The number of interesting projects that exclusively use Discord for their documentation is astounding and frustrating as hell.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm all in on Matrix. After hearing the words, "Nobody uses IRC anymore, everyone uses Discord now", I knew we were in trouble.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

mIRC for the win.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Mozilla is a non profit foundation, the corporation is owned by the non profit and exists for tax reasons only. They're different than a regular corp.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37000232

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The NFL was a non-profit until 2015.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a non-profit that stopped the free distribution of a COVID-19 vaccine.

Non-profit status doesn't automatically equal good but Mozilla has been good so far...for the most part. It has had its own controversies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Not what I'm referencing.

https://kffhealthnews.org/news/rather-than-give-away-its-covid-vaccine-oxford-makes-a-deal-with-drugmaker/

Oxford originally pledged to give their vaccine away for free but Gates convinced them otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Correct. I should have gone into more detail. Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well fuck, I guess enshittification is universal. The only safe space is community foss/libre projects I guess

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

And only as safe as the audit it gets