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We also get Linux on iPhones??
And the talk is just about sideloading... :-)
I do wonder what they mean with "operating systems". If they legislate that iPhones should allow operating systems besides iOS to be installed, that would be huge. Android, Linux, or BSD on an iPhone... imagine!
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I personally can't wait for open sourcing of mobile drivers / driver apis. That will finally allow stuff like turning off phone components for Linux mobile system and not have gyro for some specific phones.
Not if the phone isn't getting updates anymore or second-hand and the user doesn't want to use iOS.
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Big if true. Apple owners might actually be owners of their devices.
By and large, probably... But I don't think it's true for everyone.
As an iPad owner myself, I would love to ditch the OS! And I suppose alternative OSes would be pretty popular with the people jailbreaking their phones.
I don't want to impose alternative OSes on others. I would just like the option for me!
Not true. I'd love to be able to jailbreak again. I'm locked in to the ecosystem by work and a backlog of apps 15 years deep.
Granted I'm on Lemmy so I guess I'm not a normal iOS user
Yeah it's literally a status symbol amongst kids.
My kid is desperate for one but can't give me a single compelling reason apart from they're seen as cool.
I like Apple products because they just work. I have tried Windows, Linux, & Android, but I ultimately decided on just using the Apple Ecosystem (except for my gaming computer) because the products just work well. Sure they cost more and are locked down but I am willing to sacrifice those things for things for the boost in productivity.
Apple isn’t for everybody but their products have upsides.
They just work (usually) if you want to use their products the way they want you to use them.
If you have your own idea how to do something on your own that's any different, you will slowly go insane.
Well.... Yeah? That's the case for most products.
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Why downvotes? They are both right, with an exception of MacBooks. Otherwise, you are limited by use cases predicted by the manufacturer, even if it "just works".
I use both iPhone and MacBook, with the latter mostly as a Unix that, again, "just works", but I can even go as far as compile whole GNU userspace natively with Gentoo Prefix (one of many options).
Cuz it makes no sense. You wouldn’t complain that the iPhone doesn’t work as a skateboard because they don’t want you using it as a skateboard. It doesn’t work as a skateboard because it’s not a skateboard. All companies design products to be used the way the company wants you to use them. If op is talking about it being super locked down, that’s also incorrect. I can disable plenty of the security features on Mac and it continues to work just fine, compared to windows where if you disable UAC you literally cannot use your computer the same way and it will bug you constantly. It’s just a trope that isn’t really true at all.
Thinking I am referring to using a computer as not a computer is pretty ridiculous. A computer is a tool that in capable hands can do many things not originally expected by their creators.
I generally like macOS and agree that it isn't locked down. I've used Apple computers since the Apple 2, but the first one I bought myself was an iBook G4 and later a Macbook Air. I haven't kept close attention since MacOS X went beyond version 11 though.
Certainly not an all-inclusive list but some examples off the top of my head:
Some of these have workarounds or 3rd party apps to handle. Others may not be a problem on all hardware models or is simply a EULA matter. Or Apple has a solution for it if you buy their product for it but if you want to use your existing hardware you're SOL.
My concerns boil down to the choices Apple has made to keep you in their ecosystem and extract as much $$ as possible from their end users.
Just give your kid an iPhone from AxiExpress