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Why do people not understand that you can agree with one thing someone said or did while disagreeing with the majority of what they stand for? (www.youtube.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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An example is that I generally despise Jordan Peterson and most of what he says, but I often quote one thing that Jordan Peterson said (in the linked video) because I think it's a good summary of why toxic positivity doesn't work.

People (who hate JP) freak out when I quote him and say "Why tf are you quoting Jordan Peterson? Are you a insert thing that Jordan Peterson is?" And I'm like "No, I generally disagree with him on most points, aside from this one thing." But they don't believe or accept it and assume that I must be a #1 Jordan Peterson fan or something.

I think it can be considered a partial agreement, majority disagreement. Or a partial agreement with a person you generally disagree with. But I'd be open to other terms of how to describe this in a way people can understand.

Also, to avoid the controversy of referencing Jordan Peterson, if anyone has a better summary of the same concept explained by a different person in a way as well as he does, that would be appreciated too.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Because that lobster has no original thoughts. Whatever insight you think he has is not unique to him and the fact that you choose to watch his content and quote him without knowing any alternative is going to make people ask questions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Can't really blame him for not knowing an alternative without providing an alternative.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Here's the thing, I never watch his content. And I can't even remember why I happened to watch that clip, I saw it somewhere randomly. But it stood out to me because I've never heard another person really acknowledge the problem with telling people they're fine and dismissing any problems they might be experiencing, which denies their own experience and can make them feel invalidated. It seems to be very common to do that in society and to subvert that idea seems relatively uncommon. I'm sure other people have explained why it's problematic but I just haven't seen any others. So my go-to for explaining that concept is more or less what Jordan Peterson said.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

You've never heard anyone say to be empathetic with others and not be dismissive of their problems? Really? I guess for most people that's not something that needs to be said...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What's with all the downvotes with no explanation?