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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If it isn't intentional then isn't it by definition an accident?

If I break my leg while mountainbiking it seems a bit unreasonable to claim that it wasn't an accident because mountainbiking is an extreme sport and this could've been avoided if I was knitting instead.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm speeding through a school zone at 60km/h.... I didnt INTEND to kill anyone, but i didnt see the crosswalk and mowed down a bunch of pedestrians.

This is not an accident. Entirely preventable. Intent doesnt matter

The vast majority of car collisions are entirely avoidable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

It's still an accident. Just look up the definition. I'd wager to say most accidents are entirely preventable as well, but that's not what determines whether something was an accident

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is not an accident. Entirely preventable. Intent doesnt matter

This is quite literally the opposite of the truth. You should consult a dictionary.

E: if any downvoters want to point me to a definition from a legitimate source that says "accident" means "not preventable" and doesn't mention intent, I will delete this comment in shame.

Otherwise 🖕

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

accident. Noun. something bad that happens that is not expected or intended and that often damages something or injures someone

It's partly about it being preventable, but mostly about it being expected.

The expected outcome of drunk driving or speeding through crosswalks is hitting someone. It's preventable by not driving drunk or not speeding.

A careful driver in the Netherlands killing a cyclist in a city center on a 20mph road is unexpected and fairly surprising - that would be a true accident. A drunk driver hitting someone on an American stroad is depressingly normal. It's hard to call it an accident.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

In aviation, an intentional accident is still an accident. A suicidal pilot can deliberately crash an airplane, and it's still considered an accident.