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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Sorry if this is not the right community, but I wonder if lemmy.world plans to defederate Facebook?

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One of the reasons I moved to this instance was that during the first announcement .world didn’t want to defederate Facebook. That and the extensive block list, I can do that for myself thank you very much

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My question is more "Why would anyone want to federate Facebook?"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Content.

I'll probably block it, but if they bring a large number of users and communities, that comes with content more people want to see.

I'm ambivalent about decisions to defederate because both have merits. Cut them out completely to protect the community, or let the users choose who and what they want to block for themselves. I guess with that in mind, I'm fine with the "wait and see" approach for now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I admit that "Guilty until proven innocent" doesn't typically sit well with me. However, this is Facebook. We have 20 years of history to judge. At this point, only a willfully naive fool would trust them not to destroy anything they can't take control of and profit from.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also, is the huge influx of content really added value? I don’t use facebook and its offshoots because the content is irrelevant or ragebait. I certainly don’t miss it over here, and while users can individually block Facebook from their feed, as far as I know this doesn’t protect the user's data from being federated to facebook unless their instance defederates them completely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

… this doesn’t protect the user's data from being federated to facebook….

That’s my concern. I haven’t been on Facebook in years, and I don’t want to share anything with them now. I’ll likely be deleting a couple of accounts that are exposed to them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

But what kind of content? It seems like the kind of content that a facebook backed community would bring is the same kind of content that gets mocked endlessly by those on the fediverse.

Why would we celebrate more of it?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Content isn't the problem. Seriously, read that article. I was 100% pro-federation before I read it. Now I'm 100% against it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Like Reddit, there are niche communities like one for my 3d printer and stuff like that. But I do dread the trash heap I see being reposted for mocking. Guess I'll see.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Who can say? I am of a similar mind, I'm not holding out hope that it will be much more than a dumpster fire. But I think it's at least worth seeing what happens before taking the nuclear option of defederation.

If things are shit all over and Lemmy.world still decides against defederating, there are plenty of instances that already have, so no skin off my teeth either way. I can always just sign up elsewhere, or even just host my own. The beauty of the fediverse is that you never have to feel stuck with things as they are.

I'm just giving the benefit of the doubt to the smallest possibility, however unlikely, that another influx of users might bring at least a bit more activity to some of the Lemmy equivalents of niche communities that I loved from Reddit.

But I'm also not the sort of person who is kept awake at night by the fact that thousands of people are about to be gifted PCs for Christmas that run Windows out of the box instead of Linux, so I suppose I don't have as much to lose as others when it comes to having more normies show up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

People that we want to follow that went to threads instead of mastodon